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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 02:01 
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Sunday Independent here
Stephen Maguire - Sunday Independent wrote:
Medical cars will still face speeding tickets
By Stephen Maguire - Sunday November 14 2010

Cars used to transport doctors to emergency calls face getting speeding tickets and penalty points when the new privatised speed camera system begins tomorrow.

Because out-of-hour GP service cars are not classified as emergency vehicles, the HSE admits drivers face €80 fines and penalty points if caught driving above the speed limit.
The service, which operates under various names including Now Doc, Shannon Doc, West Doc and South Doc, means GPs can reach patients in rural areas by using designated drivers.
The cars used are fitted with specific equipment and many have reflective logos and flashing lights similar to emergency service vehicles.
Emergency vehicles such as garda cars, fire brigades and ambulances can be exempt from some traffic laws including speeding if they do not put other road users in danger.

But a HSE spokesman has admitted that regardless of the emergency, doctor's drivers must obey the speed limit or face the consequences.
"It is the duty of the driver to get the doctor safely to the patient and they are bound by the Road Traffic Regulations Act," he said.
Chairman of the Irish Patients Association, Stephen McMahon, said he hoped the operators of the new scheme would show a bit of common sense when dealing with doctors' drivers.
"I hope they will use some derogation if this does happen. These people are trained drivers and they will not speed just for the sake of it.
"If calls are a matter of life and death then sometimes speed is needed and I hope this company will see it that way," he said.
Under the new privatised speed camera scheme, 45 mobile cameras will provide more than 6,000 hours of speed checks per month across the State.
Operator Go-Safe has insisted it is not being paid by how many detections it makes but rather by how many hours it operates the system.
The new system will not replace the garda speed camera service, which will also continue to operate.
I wonder how many people will die due to this demand that a technical infringment takes priority over a trained driver in an emergency. What an odd decision to make - as it makes them unfir for purpose - to protect their Community.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 19:11 
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I'm glad I don't live in Ireland!

I'd trust the new operators about as far as I'd trust a privateised firm of wheel clampers to enforce parking restrictions fairly and ethically!


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You have clearly not understood the mindset of the people involved with speed enforcement. There is NO EXCUSE for exceeding any limit - no matter how it was set - in any circumstances whatsoever. Just look at the number of accidents involving police cars on emergency calls.

If it saves one (child's) life...

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malcolmw wrote:
If it saves one (child's) life...
.... is speeding acceptable?

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 19:50 
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dcbwhaley wrote:
malcolmw wrote:
If it saves one (child's) life...
.... is speeding acceptable?


if you are having a stroke, or a heart attack or you are trapped in a burning building. They didn't have the woo woos on when they took me to hospital with a broken neck. Boooo. They didn't know at the time mind and it wasn;t life threatening. I have seen, several times, ambulances being escorted at approx 20 mph on the A5 heading to Gobowen, with I assume someone with a spinal injury on board.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 21:44 
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dcbwhaley wrote:
malcolmw wrote:
If it saves one (child's) life...
.... is speeding acceptable?


Yes, because I am all grown-up now, have watched, understood and internalised the changes to speed limits and how they are enforced and have decided I am more than capable of deciding how fast to drive in any given situation. The 'magic number' stuck on a pole next to road the is not relevant anymore since it was totally undermined by mindless legislation and the undermining of what was once a sensible system for road policing.

It is inevitable that sometimes my rational decision making based on my extensive experience and my understanding or traffic conditions, vehicle performance, available visibility and grip levels will result in my selection of a speed that may differ in either sense from the number on the pole.

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