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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 02:18 
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Suffolk Free Press here
Suffolk Free Press wrote:
Speed cameras await fate
Published on Mon Jan 10 10:59:02 GMT 2011

A DECISION which could see the county’s speed cameras switched off will be made at a meeting next week.

Suffolk county council’s cabinet will be asked to approve plans to cut the funding for the SafeCam partnership on January 11, saving £1.2 million from the authorities budget but potentially switching off the regions speed cameras.

The proposals have left many worried that despite the savings the price paid in road deaths could be much greater.

According to a report prepared for the cabinet, the Suffolk SafeCam Partnership has cut an average of 14 fatalities a year, with the number of people dying on Suffolk roads falling from 60 in 2003, when the partnership was formed, to 19 last year.

Guy McGregor, county councillor with responsibility for transport said that the SafeCam Partnership had been very successful, and hoped it would be able to continue as a service provided by the police.

He added that if more motorists who were caught speeding were to pay for driver training courses as an alternative to going through the courts, enough money could be generated to keep the service going.

A spokesman for Suffolk police said that they would be monitoring the figures over the next three months before deciding whether they could take over funding.

He said: “Whatever the decision, there will still be enforcement of speed limits. If the cameras are switched off we will still have police officers in patrol cars and with speed guns monitoring drivers.”
Some links :
http://www.suffolkroadsafe.net/suffolksafecam/
http://www.suffolkroadsafe.net/suffolks ... t_sscp.php
http://www.suffolkroadsafe.net/suffolks ... _stats.php
http://www.suffolkroadsafe.net/suffolks ... ebsite.pdf
http://www.suffolkroadsafe.net/suffolks ... ebsite.pdf

I see to that they have a Public Access System here for NIP's - anyone got any experience ?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 14:58 
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Just got this link to the Suffolk Road Casualty report.
Here

And also :
Suffolk County Council agenda here (4th on the list for "Divestment of Suffolk's Safety Camera Partnership to Suffolk Constabulary (Agenda Item 7)".

Lets serious hope that perhaps some of what I said on the radio this morning reminds some about what are the key points here.

Police must enforce the Law never make road safety policy decisions.
Self appointed organisations shouldn't either for that matter, we need proper and intelligent road safety research that leads to sound decisions by those that understand the statistics.

Brake asked me to quote good research and after mentioning Dr Alan Buckingham she interrupted and I continued mentioning Al Gullon with whom I am sure she hadn't heard of as there was no comment for him.

I also wished to continue to make the point about traffic volumes not being carried out prior to research making those research result/s meaningless.

Let me ask you ALL a question :
You drive to go and buy a paper (everything else inc religion etc., put aside) at 9am would you choose to go on a Thursday or a Sunday? and then why ?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 15:14 
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I don't really understand the reason for this question but the answer might be:

Thursday as I wouldn't be up that early on a Sunday.

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Sunday as it would be easier to park outside the shop.

or

Sunday as on that day the paper is too heavy to carry far so I take the car

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 18:48 
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Neither, I don't buy a morning paper...;-)

I think the point that Claire is trying to get over , is, that Sunday has much less volume of traffic.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 01:20 
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:) You are thinking too hard ! :)
I will wait for more considerations before explaining. :)

I'll re-phrase :

Let me ask you ALL a question :
You decide to drive to go and buy a paper (everything else inc religion etc., put aside) at 9am, you have two options, Thursday or a Sunday which day would you choose to go on ? and then why ?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 04:36 
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Gosh, no more takers - ah well - yes it is about volume of traffic. We instinctively choose less volume of traffic as being less exposed to danger. But those traffic volumes are needed to bring true value and meaning to figures gained before and after events. For example 500 vehicles travel prior to some 'research' and then after you then also need to take 500 vehicles. Is that significance understandable ?

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