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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 01:54 
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Do speed cameras work?
Chris Torney, 20 Jul, 2011

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Figures that show the effectiveness of speed cameras are being released. But some motorists will get the picture sooner than others.

Drivers will soon be able to decide whether speed cameras in their area are effective after the government ordered local authorities to release data about prosecutions and accident rates at every site in the country.
But residents in certain areas face a wait of months for this information because ministers have not put a deadline on exactly when the statistics should be made available to the public.

Lancashire County Council became the first authority to release speed-camera data on 20 July, but it is not yet clear how quickly other councils will follow suit.
What the government wants

Road safety minister Mike Penning asked all of England’s highways authorities to publish the number of drivers caught and fined at each speed camera location, as well as accident and injury rates before and after the cameras were introduced.
Mr Penning gave a deadline of 20 July for each authority to tell the Department for Transport (DfT) the website address where this information would be published.
But the edict said merely that the authorities should put up the speed camera data information “as soon as practical” rather than setting a strict deadline.

The DfT will then set up its own website providing links to local websites where the public can find speed camera date for their area.

Public should be informed
At the time, Penning said: “We want to improve accountability and make sure that the public are able to make informed judgements about the decisions made on their behalf.
"So if taxpayers’ money is being spent on speed cameras then it is right that information about their effectiveness is available to the public.
"That is why we want full details of accidents and casualties at camera sites, along with the number of offences arising from each camera, to be easily accessible.
"This will help to show what impact cameras are having on road safety and also how the police are dealing with offenders."

How you can use the information
Even if you don’t live in Lancashire, it is worth looking at what the council there is doing to make the effectiveness of its speed cameras more transparent.
The website gives information on the number of fines issued following speeding offences at each camera site in the county, as well as the numbers of drivers who attended speed-awareness courses or who had their fines cancelled over the course of 2010.
There is also a map of the area with the precise location of cameras marked on: by clicking on each one users can see the number of accidents at the site by year, as well as when the camera was installed.
This allows comparison of accident rates before and after each speed camera came into use.

Speed isn’t the only problem
A new survey has highlighted the fact that slow or over-cautious drivers can also cause problems for other road users.
Research carried out for Confused.com found that half of the UK’s motorists attempt “unsafe” overtaking when stuck behind an excessively slow vehicle. A third say they have had an incident or near miss as a result.

Gareth Kloet, head of car insurance at Confused.com, says: “Slow drivers need to be taken as seriously as motorists caught speeding.
"Our findings confirm they are a constant source of anxiety on UK roads and responsible for a large number of accidents each year.”
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In a word "No".
Motorists are still travelling above the legal speed limit.

I think it has brought out the belief from those motorists who travel slowly that they have the right idea and so travelling even more slowly will allow them greater 'thinking time' but this is unlikely to be the case. If they are travelling 'that' slow then they are likely to be doing so from lack of confidence and are also likely to be less aware and alert. So they are less likely to recognise a developing hazard so any advantage that they might possibly have been afforded is lost anyway. Those that travel at more normal speeds are more likely to be paying attention and see the developing hazard and so take appropriate action in good time.
The lack of confidence is increased since speed cameras spread and the fear of going over a limit and loosing your licence has added to this paranoia. When speed cameras have been located on the best roads (most traffic volume and density) and in the best long straights used formally for the best overtakes, it forces people to overtake in less space and on less safe sections of road and encourages 'chancy manoeuvres'. And to think that no research has been carried out as to the use of speed cameras and their effects, is utterly irresponsible and disgusting ! I wonder how manyhave lost their lives through bad overtakes due to a speed camera occupying the best overtake location?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:38 
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But accident rate results before and after camera installation potentially only tell part of the story, any other work done in conjunction with the camera installation .e.g road improvements need to also be mentioned.

Near here a camera was installed years ago on the approach to a petrol filling station exit/entry, at the same time bushes obscuring the the view from and to the exit/entry were removed. I used that filling station regularly but never used that exit as I considered the lack of visibility caused by the bushed made it dangerous, even if traffic was sticking to 30 mph speed limit ... even wrote the council about it but got no reply .... I always used the other much safer exit instead.

IMO removing the bushes alone would have resolved the problem entirely as there would then have been sufficient visibility for both vehicles leaving the filling station, and those approaching.

That filling station closed a few years back, so the problem no longer exists anyway, but the camera is still there! There is a road junction just after the filling station, I never had a problem there, though it could possibly be argued that the camera is slowing traffic for this junction.

The camera is currently well obscured by overgrown trees on approach, making it very unlikely anyone will see it, if part of it's function is supposed to be slowing traffic down on approach to a dangerous junction, it isn't currently fulfilling that purpose!

Publishing figures for that camera without mentioning that bushes were removed to improve visibility at the same time as camera was installed, and that the filling station has been closed for some considerable time is meaningless.

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I am glad I don't live in Lancashire! Unless I am completely misunderstanding the map, is there any road that does not have a speed camera on it?


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