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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 01:35 
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Traffic signs updated, clutter and red tape reduced
In biggest signs review in 40 years
Publisher: Department for Transport - Published date: 13 October 2011
Type: Press release - Mode/topic: Roads, Road management, Road safety

Unnecessary Whitehall bureaucracy will be tackled and costs for councils reduced following the biggest review into Britain's traffic signing system for 40 years, announced today by Transport Minister Norman Baker.

The Government hopes that the review will dramatically reduce the number of signs councils need to use by relaxing rules - such as by removing the requirement for some signs - including those to indicate the start of a pedestrian zone, to be placed on both sides of the road.

The new measures will significantly cut red tape by allowing councils to put in place frequently used signs without needing to get government permission every time. There are also proposals to save councils money by allowing them to publicise their Traffic Regulation Orders in a manner that is appropriate for the target audience, rather than forcing them to pay for newspaper advertising as is currently the case.

In addition, there will be changes to reflect the way that travel has transformed over the decades, to make sure that road users are getting the right information at the right time. There will be new signs to alert drivers to parking spaces with charging points for electric vehicles and councils will be able to indicate estimated journey times on cycle routes, to help people plan their journeys.

Norman Baker said:
"This is the most far-reaching review of traffic signs in 40 years. We are cutting pointless bureaucracy, giving councils more freedoms, and updating our suite of signs for the modern era.
"Sometimes the jungles of signs and tangles of white, red and yellow lines can leave people more confused than informed. This expensive clutter can also leave our roadsides looking unsightly and unwelcoming, so the changes I am announcing today will help councils cut the number of signs they need to use."
"We will also be allowing councils to use different ways to get information to drivers, encouraging them to question whether some signs are needed at all and publishing new advice for councils to help them reduce clutter on their roads."
"We want to make sure that there is consistency across the country while allowing local authorities greater discretion in how they use signs on their roads rather than demanding they get approval from Whitehall for signs they need to use regularly."
"These changes will ultimately save councils money and lead to more attractive streets which improve the quality of life for local people."

The new framework includes measures to update and improve traffic signs to make sure that they reflect the way we travel now, as well as providing clear information on prohibitions on the road network.
Changes will include:
Measures to improve cycle journeys by allowing journey times as well as distances to be added to signs on cycle routes and making it easier for councils to use Trixi mirrors to improve visibility of cyclists at junctions and 'no entry except cycles' signs to allow contra-flow cycling;
A new sign warning lorry drivers that a road is unsuitable for their vehicles. This will help to prevent situations where lorries following sat nav systems use inappropriate roads, sometimes causing disruption to the local road network and delays to their journey;
Measures to simplify some parking signs after research showed that, although overall understanding of traffic and parking signs among drivers is good, there is scope for some signs to be made clearer;
Allowing councils to use innovative new measures such as pedestrian countdown timers and diagonal crossings without Government approval.

Measures to reduce the impact that traffic signs have on the environment and help cut costs for councils and central government by reducing the levels of bureaucracy needed to put signs in place include:
Issuing guidance to councils to encourage them to improve their streetscapes by identifying and removing unnecessary traffic signs;
Reducing bureaucracy and costs for councils wanting to use 20 mph schemes by cutting the number of signs they need to put in place and making it easier to use variable 20 mph speed limits where necessary, such as outside schools;
Reducing the lighting requirements for signs, so as to reduce costs and carbon emissions;
Allowing publicity for new traffic regulation orders, e.g. for parking restrictions, to be more targeted at those who are affected by proposed changes, helping councils to reduce costs;
Reducing the need for councils to gain approval from the Department for Transport to put in place certain commonly used signs such as those which indicate that parking places are reserved for car club users. This will result in a reduction in signs requiring DfT authorisation of around 40%.

The Traffic Signs Policy Review started in September 2008. The full review document, 'Signing the Way', can be found here: www?.dft?.gov?.uk/?p?u?b?l?i?c?a?t?i?o?n?s?/?s?i?g?n?i?n?g?-?t?h?e?-?way.

Notes to Editors:
The Department for Transport's wide ranging Traffic Signs Review started in September 2008. This has been the most fundamental review of the approach to traffic signing for 40 years and the key aim has been to develop a traffic sign system that will both meet the changing needs of road users and provide effective tools for the better management of the road network, incorporating new technologies and minimising the impact on the environment.

Research commissioned alongside the review has also been published today and can be found here:
Research project into the awareness of the meaning of traffic signs from AECOM– www?.dft?.gov?.uk/?p?u?b?l?i?c?a?t?i?o?n?s?/?s?i?g?n?i?n?g?-?t?h?e?-?way.
Reducing Traffic Sign Clutter from the Transport Research Laboratory – www?.dft?.gov?.uk/?p?u?b?l?i?c?a?t?i?o?n?s?/?s?i?g?n?i?n?g?-?t?h?e?-?way.
The Written Ministerial statement laid in Parliament today can be found here: www?.dft?.gov?.uk/?n?e?w?s?/?s?t?a?t?m?e?nts.

Added - Traffic Advisory Leaflets : http://www.dft.gov.uk/publications/tal/ - http://www.dft.gov.uk/publications/loca ... ort-notes/
Overall this sounds very good. De-cluttering the road furnishings will help with visibility and ensure that motorists can absorb the information being (more selectively) presented. I am less sure of the extra cycle info (will it make that much difference & is it necessary) and are lorries making so many mistakes with sat-nav's that this new sign is needed ? What was wrong with a sign showing a narrow section - or the already existing no lorry sign or unsuitable for X ton vehicles ?

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 09:34 
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While the objective of decluttering the roads is worthwhile, a quick read indicates a number of items for concern, such as:

(a) relaxing the requirements for advertising Traffic Regulation Orders,

(b) removing the requirement to have certain regulatory signs on both sides of the road, and

(c) removing the requirement to have speed limit repeater signs in addition to carriageway roundels

I think the latter only really applies to 20 mph limits but IMV it's still a retrograde step.

Any signs that can potentially lead to a prosecution if you contravene them need to be crystal clear and covered by unambiguous, consistent and watertight regulations.

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I totally agree and hence my comment 'overall' ....
It absolutely needs clear regulation and whether some of this is to remove the need from Council to be so vigilant and therefor help with Court cases who knows but it may be linked. "If we relax one set then the other has a benefit" - a possibility of their thoughts!
However what happens when you miss (obscured by vehicles trees etc etc), the change in the posted limit from 40mph to 30mph and the camera unit up ahead nabs you ?
I can see more people ending up in Court than before ... but the Council will not be to blame (sometimes)!

I can see a few (more) letters going to more MP's !

'Relaxing the regulations' may easily mean a mass of re-interpretations by every Council, who already create many of their own HC systems that are found no where else !

Making things 'easy' can cause mass confusion in reality, and what about informing the public ?

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