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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 22:26 
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Found this on another site ,but with no reference to source .
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Police in Essex have launched a new road safety operation to curb the menace of inconsiderate drivers and motorcyclists.
Operation Safeway will target bullying tailgaters who drive too close, such as the driver shown in this video clip, impatient drivers who undertake, those who overtake on roundabouts and others whose behaviour put innocent lives at risk.
The operation is being carried out in response to growing public concern about poor driving standards that have led to fears for the safety of all road users.
Police will be using cars and motorbikes fitted with video cameras to make sure that offenders are dealt with quickly and efficiently without officers spending time in court.
Drivers who commit more serious offences will be prosecuted for careless driving but the majority are more likely to be sent on an educational driving course in an effort to improve overall rider and driver behaviour.
The footage above was recorded from an unmarked police car travelling at 70mph in a line of traffic in the outside lane on the M25 near Epping. The police car was tailgated by a van whose driver flashed his lights and took both hands off the wheel at the same time to make gestures at the officer driving the car. At one point the van was estimated to be less than 1ft from the rear of the police car. The van driver was later stopped and given a fixed penalty notice.
Sgt Simon Willsher of the Essex Police Casualty Reduction Unit said: "Many drivers do not realise that they can be prosecuted for inconsiderate driving when it also careless driving. For example, if someone is tailgating because they aren't paying attention and don't think about stopping distances they can go on a National Driver Alertness Course without going through court or having penalty points on their driving licences.
"If, on the other hand, they are tailgating because they are impatient and trying to bully people out of the way they can be prosecuted for careless driving.
"We will be looking at drivers whose driving is not up the standard expected of a competent full licence holder. This could include impatience at junctions, undertaking and any other situation where a driver or rider may be inconvenienced or placed at risk by the behaviour of another driver.
"By using cars and motorbikes with video recording equipment we can speed up the court process and it may not be necessary for officers to go to court for cases that are contested.
"We anticipate that the majority of offences discovered will be dealt with by sending drivers on educational courses where they will be shown video evidence of how inconsiderate driving can cause crashes and put lives at risk. We want to change driver behaviour for the better rather than fine them or give them penalty points on their licences."
Essex Police's Casualty Reduction Manager Adam Pipe said: "Police and Essex County Council's Casualty Reduction Board are receiving increasing numbers of complaints and concerns in relation to poor driving behaviour.
"Poor driving behaviour features as a factor within many road traffic collisions which all too often lead to fatal or serious injuries. These behaviours can also lead to minor collisions that can serious delays and disruption to busy main routes such as the A12, A13 and M25 and M11.
"We have always taken action against inconsiderate drivers, however we recognise increasing opportunities to refer offenders on to educational courses rather than prosecution through the courts in an effort to improve rider and driver behaviour."
Operation Safeway will run alongside various other road safety operations and the successful No Excuses campaign currently being carried out by Essex Police and Essex County Council.


Seems Essex have now admitted that bad driving is possible .

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Hopefully as many MLM's as undertaking cars will come to the attention of this 'crack' team?

Who is the inconsiderate driver when the car in front simply will NOT pull to the left?

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Who is the inconsiderate driver when the car in front simply will NOT pull to the left?
My gripe!

I do not ostensibly object with anyone hogging the outside lane if they are doing the speed limit safely, even though they shouldn't. But I admit to undertaking when some numpty is hogging the outside lane mile after mile at much less than the limit. I've touched on this before..

Undertaking is not a problem in America, (who often get unjustly denigrated for dumbness), and I don't see why it should be a problem for us 'clever' English. If you are aware of your surroundings, as you should be, and give clear indication and time for any maneuver, undertaking should neither be dangerous nor illegal IMHO.

So, if you are following some nob in the outside lane needlessly doing 10 or 20 mph under the limit you have to live with it - right? :banghead: Meanwhile in the 21st century, when the expression 'time is money' has never been more pertinent, that's just how it is sorry. :doh:

Something else I have never quite understood is why 'someone' hasn't simply looked around the world and taken the best ideas of what works best for: the motorist, pedestrians and safety :? How can different countries have such different opinions on speed & safety? We're maniacs and murderers for doing more than 70mph whereas in France, Germany....

I guess It's because we are so very clever only we know what's best and expect the rest of the world to follow our wonderful example :roll:

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Along with MLM, one of my gripes is tailgaitling on urban roads . I can't understand why there's little action to rein in those who attempt to force you to go faster ,when You have decided that a certain speed is corect for the conditions ( or on some of the 20 limits, I agree are appropriate for that section) . If those in power want to enforce limits ,then there's ( IMHO) a responsibility to protect those who drive according to the conditions .

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Along with MLM, one of my gripes is tailgaitling on urban roads . I can't understand why there's little action to rein in those who attempt to force you to go faster


The one's that amaze me are the boy (and girl) racers, who are up your tailpipe on urban roads, in such a hurry, then when you hit a rural NSL (anyone still remember them), they fall back and tootle at 40MPH....so what was the urgency before then????

OR they tootle at 40MPH on an NSL only to continue at 40MPH in a town or village with a 30MPH limit.

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http://www.essex.police.uk/news_features/video__audio/audio__video/new_operation_launched_to_targ.aspx

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graball , I'm now finding it's more girl racers .

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They do seem to hit roundabouts terribly fast around here and I often wonder how their reactions would perform if someone was to pull out in front of them.

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graball wrote:
They do seem to hit roundabouts terribly fast around here and I often wonder how their reactions would perform if someone was to pull out in front of them.
It becomes a vicious circle :P

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Tone :clap: :clap:

I see it here ,especially the mini ones . I often wonder if it's a form of poker -bluff traffic with right of way into thinking you won't stop, so everybody stops ( just in case they are faced with an illegal driver) . Bluffer then carries on waving thanks to those who fell for his tactic . Sad symton of lack of physical police presence on the roads .

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