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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 00:28 
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Not increasing the amount of crashes on our motorways IS motorist friendly.


Of course, now we'll never know...


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 00:30 
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A survey of 13,000 drivers for the AA found that 53 per cent of women are in favour of a 80mph limit while 73 per cent of men favour the change.


So let me get this right then...

They don't want to alienate 40% of women drivers, but they're happy to alienate 53% of them PLUS 73% of male ones?


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The real reason the 80mph limit was shelved was because when those proposing it were asks for the evidence to support their feeble justification they had none; hence no change.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 19:33 
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And there was me thinking "those proposing it" was the government! Just as an aside though, what would you want evidence of and what level of evidence would you consider acceptable?


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 19:46 
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And there was me thinking "those proposing it" was the government! Just as an aside though, what would you want evidence of and what level of evidence would you consider acceptable?


The government?

By that do you mean bona fide car loon "I don't like it when cyclists get in my way" Phillip Hammond, who used ridiculously selective and out of whack reasons in an attempt to justify it?

http://www.christianwolmar.co.uk/2011/1 ... mph-limit/

A bit of silly drum bashing, that was all it was.


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The real reason the 80mph limit was shelved was because when those proposing it were asks for the evidence to support their feeble justification they had none; hence no change.



Source ,please ?

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weepej wrote:
Mole wrote:
And there was me thinking "those proposing it" was the government! Just as an aside though, what would you want evidence of and what level of evidence would you consider acceptable?


The government?

By that do you mean bona fide car loon "I don't like it when cyclists get in my way" Phillip Hammond, who used ridiculously selective and out of whack reasons in an attempt to justify it?

http://www.christianwolmar.co.uk/2011/1 ... mph-limit/

A bit of silly drum bashing, that was all it was.


Nice link - lots of adverts for all the books on trains that he's written... almost makes me think he might be a bona fide (anti) car loon? :scratchchin:

Anyway, for what it's worth, I thought the arguments they (he?) put for increasing the motorway speed limit sounded pretty tenuous too - but then, what would I know?! I'm always being told the government knows best! (or is that only when they're talking about further reductions of speed limits and even more rigorous enforcement of them)? :wink:

Personally, I couldn't see what would have been wrong with saying:
(a) it would bring us into line with most of the rest of Europe and
(b) it would bring some vague improvement in the public's respect for the law by making it less likely that more than half of them would routinely exceed it.


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