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Over Christmas, I was driving in the Chichester area when I came across some signs which I haven't seen before. These were advance warning of a speed restriction but weren't the usual "limit ahead" style (with red ring, black numbers on a white ground).

The signs were all yellow ground with the ring, numbers and text all in black like a roadworks style. I can't see them in the Highway Code.

Any ideas?

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Malcolm W.
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Hi I have seen similar on the A615 in Derbyshire. They are white background with all the rest in black. they countdown in 100 yds intervals. Not seen any documentation or highway code reference. Maybe somebody is making it up as he goes along ?

Richard

We have them in our village, but at the end are the regulation speed limit signs black on white within red circle. In our case they are advanced warnings that the limit starts just around a fairly fast nsl corner and seem quite a good idea.

i think they make the format of these kind of signs up as they go along.. possibly on a friday afternoon...

I think the format is irrelevant as they are not enforcing a limit, they are simply warning of an impending limit. I agree with Cooperman and would actually like to see them at the end of most NSL stretches.

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They may be "advisory" I have seen an increase in non-mandatory signs recently.

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Speed camera policy Kills

There seems to be a fashion for placing as many signs as possible on as many posts as possible. Whatever happened to having signs on a single post that are read in order of the hazards?

The other day I was riding into a village lat at night and the dazzle back from the shear number of signs made me dip my lights.

I welcome the count down signs though. I first saw this concept in France where they have count down limits. Of course over here we would have a camera between ever speed limit sign

These signs --http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,22749-1963738,00.html

In 1998 a Department for Transport memo said: “Speed limits indicated by this type of sign may prove unenforceable.”

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

We've certainly been placing count down signs at the entrances to 30 limits in villages from nsl roads. We use the regular red roundel over 3,2 or 1 stripes. We got blanket authorisation to use them by the Scottish Exec. Just because a sign isn't in the TSRGD, it may still be authorised for use.

But I certainly think they're a good idea, especially for a big reduction in limit round a bend, over a hill etc.

Well the red ring, black numbers on a white background indicate the start of a speed limit even if a distance is shown. In other words even though this type of sign is commonly used it's not the right sign to indicate prior warning of a speed limit. On a road near here one of the red ring advance warning signs has been changed so that the red ring has gone - it's now correct for its purpose.

In the unlikely event of being charged with speeding past an incorrect advance warning sign you would have to get documentary proof from the highways authority about where the limit really started.

Theres an article on ABD about these new signs - top left of the home page .
From it - as long as the background is rectangular and yellow its legal -used to be a reference to all legal signs on a post on here - can't find it.

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

I agree. In the 'good old days', a biker coming off his bike stood a reasonable chance of just sliding to a halt. These days, a biker will slide straight into all this street furniture.

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quote="balrog"]There seems to be a fashion for placing as many signs as possible on as many posts as possible.[/quote]

Don't know about other areas but in this neck of the woods the first one is almost always a camera sign ,and sure enough somewhere along the road , just visible enough to comply, but hidden enough to be a hazard, with panick braking, is a Scam.
The only sign i have yet to see in Warks is the "New Speed Limit "--
sometimes the only way of telling is the markings on lamp posts where the 40 repeater has been removed - and the local SCP - I asked them when -answer - oh, about a month or two ago

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on