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Hi all,

Roadworks on M8 Glasgow airport flyover and a bit beyond in the Easterly direction.

40 limit

Cameras

NO workers anywhere!

Anyone relate to this scenario?


Regards

Andrew

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Don't all airports have a flyover ? Can't see how they'd have roadworks on them though.

Anway, yes I think we can all relate to the 'roadworks but no workers' scenario. I'm sure there must be a valid reason why they prepare a site with cones, speed limits and cameras but there never appears to be anyone working it. Don't know what it is though, although I have seen the workforce on the M6 at night when they weren't there during the day. Is this it?

I knew someone that worked on the Thelwell Viaduct, and he said that while there was nobody visible from the road, that didn't meant that they were not working - the work was mainly on the underside of the viaduct.

This excuse isn't particularly good when the road isn't elevated...

I'm fairly sure that bit of motorway is elevated.

Even if it's not though, blame it on bureaucracy rather than the camera partnerships. If you want to get a temporary speed limit it's a real pain in the arse process and you just get to specify a start date/time and an end date/time, there is no facility to, say, only have the temporary speed limit in operation 9-5 monday-friday or whatever times you actually intend to work. There is also no facility to only have it apply to part of the stretch you're intending to work on at any one time

eg. you have 16 weeks to fix 4 miles of road and you do it in chunks of 1/4 mile at a time, one week per chunk. The logical way to do it would be to have the speed limit operational on the chunk you're working on, but you can't do this so you have to reduce the entire 4 mile stretch for 16 weeks.

So, do not blame the camera people or the construction companies for this one. Blame the council.

But aren’t the councils part of the partnerships?

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yes, came through there today. the whole place was chaos this morning. truck rolled over on a sliproad. he must have hit the barrier as it was on the sliproad underneath along with his load. he was lucky not to have gone over himself as it was a 30 foot drop

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That was a different area scanny.

I've driven through these roadworks every day since they started (due to end next week). Initially they had VASs at each end of the roadworks just before the cameras. The only reason I can think of for using VAS and cameras would be a nod at the TRL report saying fixed cameras alone contributed to higher accident rates in roadworks.

The VASs were taken away after about three weeks but the cameras stayed.

When the contra-flow was switched the westbound facing camera became temporarily redundant as it was staring at the closed lanes.

my fault. i should have put that chaos thing on a different line. i was all over Glasgow today

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I went up to Delamere and back from Swindon on Sunday night. Two sets of roadworks both with 40MPH limits just north of Brum (if memory serves). On the way up there was no sign of life (about 5pm) but by the time I came back at about midnight, one side of the motorway was completely closed and they were resurfacing it.

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