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Statistically and obviously far more dangerous, (Prove it , prove it I hear you cry)

Well I will, Ill meet up with any motor cyclist agree a target speed and we can crash head on, bet I'm less damaged!!

Less capacity for any passangers, cars 3/4-bikes 1 max.
Use as much fuel.

What are motor bikes useful for, are they forms of transport or just toys

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Why not put on speed limiters we have the technology only idiots break the speed limit

You seem to be looking for an argument but you won't get one from me.
Personally, I think your talking bollocks.

Which part of the statement is unture oh wise one

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Why not put on speed limiters we have the technology only idiots break the speed limit

Which part of that question is misspelled?

most of it but thats just attempting to get people to look away from the statement made.

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Why not put on speed limiters we have the technology only idiots break the speed limit

I don't think anyone can be arsed with you mate!

Motor cycles should be made the only acceptable form of transport for single occupancy,non delivery, vehicles.

They are indeed more economical and if all car drivers were on bikes the roads would be safer as well

Now why don't you run along and find another playground. Once agin I seek the ignore user button

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Former Military Police Officer and accident investigator

So misspelling your diatribes is a way of getting folks to ignore what you've written then?
Don't worry, its all largely being ignored anyway.

but i drive a sherman tank,

i have not had any communication with you the ' the sensible majority', may be we are batting from the same side i am not sure, if you want to be taken with any credibility dont be so arrogant

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now retired

How would that inprove safety and how many lives would be saved each year then.

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Why not put on speed limiters we have the technology only idiots break the speed limit

Another intellectual assertion from oh great one.

Well if I may use the same sort of fantasy that you guys use to support cameras lets see?

3500 fatalities a year around 500 hundred are bikers, statistics prove that around 60 % are caused by car drivers so there are about 300 straight away.

there would of course be the associated increase but it wouldn't be many as 20% of fatal biker accidents are drink related and only about 10 % are bikers slamming in when socially riding.

Since most drivers who were forced on to bikes would not do it and would take the bus instead and those that did would be commuters (very low risk on a bike if no cars around) we probably could expect a significant reduction. There would of course still be the diesel issue but that would be easily solved with 5 minutes legislation against the haulage industry and of course the roads would still need maintaining but as bikes cause presious little damage to road surfaces in comparison with cars the bill for that would reduce.

You see every crack pot idea can be supported by a little imagination, after all thats what pays your salary isn't it

In reality we could probably expect to save about the same as safety cameras have which is zero

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Former Military Police Officer and accident investigator

Indeed, i've been banging out this point to various people for years.

1. Motorcycles and scooters are probably the most efficient single/dual person transport there is. Queuing in traffic jams by and large doesn't apply

2. They are cheap to buy and on average when ridden reasonably (some exclusive Italian marques excepted) offer much better fuel economy than any car - take our "communal" 125 Van Van bike which costs 5 quid to fill up and does 120 miles to the gallon. Even our bigger bikes (an 800cc and a 600cc) regularly return in excess of 60mpg.

3. The motorcycle community is far superior in terms of cameraderie and support than car drivers and they look after each other.

4. There's nothing quite like riding a motorcycle for improving observation and awareness.

5. Parking isn't an issue.

6. The excitement is unparalleled.


Granted, cars have their use - I'd not like to try transporting the bags of cement and sand that I did recently on the back of a bike, and they don't really work in ice, but the benefits far outweight the drawbacks, especially with current Government policies of car-hatery. Would you rather see people sat in Chelsea Tractors getting about 10mpg stop-starting on what could turn into a 60 minute journey into work, or people just getting the job done on bikes?

Go to Geneva and see how it's done.

I don't think anyone is taking you seriously, least of all me, but a question for you; do you know what a "pillion rider" is?

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Why not put on speed limiters we have the technology only idiots break the speed limit

I didnt understand the crack pot idea wink thing please explain.

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Why not put on speed limiters we have the technology only idiots break the speed limit

Well I am sorry it wasn't clear, I have presumed by your pathetic attempts to stir up things on here that you are quite simply a member of staff at one of the many camera partnerships. It is normally people who work for them who come on here like you and make a nuisance for a while.

My commenet with the smilie was that crack pot ideas pay the wages of the staff at the partnerships.

Now if you are indeed not an employee at one of these tax collecting organisations I apologise that i have made that presumption, but that would lead me to ask the question "what the f**k are you on?"

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Former Military Police Officer and accident investigator

As some-one who belives in saving the planet I think this idea of more bikes looks good,
However I personally do need a car for work, as I sometimes carry people.
I thought that bikes were not that good on fuel, somthing to do with two stroke engines been innifficient?? but thats probably me been ignorant/old fashioned!
maybe higher road taxes for cars should continue and the silly cars road taxed out of existance, and a sensible or no road tax for bikes.

Im not anai car but anti silly big cars such as the Chelsea tractors, and vasstly overpowered cars, anything to save the planet for my children.

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Why not put on speed limiters we have the technology only idiots break the speed limit

Aha, a tree hugger...now it starts to make sense


Modern strokers are very efficient, even the 20+ year old strokers can do better than cars on fuel, but what makes you think that the 4 stroke engine has not been applied to bikes?


Road tax for bikes is already moderately sensibly priced.


You really think that doing away with road going V8's is going to make an impact on the levels of crap that we chuck in to the air on a daily basis?

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What makes you think I'm drunk officer, have I got a fat bird with me?

It bloody isn't The tax for our larger bikes is more than some cars which do half the fuel economy, shove out twice the emissions, and take up 5 times the road space.