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A multitude of speed cameras have recently been installed on the road from Hull to York. Interestingly and rather annoyingly these have sprung up not on dangerous bends or in residential areas, but on the few open stretches where it is safe to overtake, oh and a hill where there is a designated overtaking lane.

They are Truvelo cameras that seem to be located in pairs - you pass one on your side of the road and shortly after there will be another one on the opposite side usually covering the other direction.

Tonight I noticed that two pairs of these cameras were both pointing the same way, meaning there are two locations where two cameras in the space of 200 yards both facing you as you approach, despite the fact that the cameras are on different sides of the road they both point towards you as you approach.

Will both cameras be monitoring the same direction of travel, or will one be taking photographs of traffic in the opposite direction from behind?

Market Weighton Hill is particularly crazy - 4 cameras in the space of 1/3 of a mile

The following Safe Speed page helps to explain the problem: http://www.safespeed.org.uk/rules.html

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I'm a local to the area and I have noticed the recent proliferation of Truvelo Speed cameras on the Hull York road an also the beverley bypass

Tuvelo cameras measure speed using sensors underneath the tarmac, these are visible on close examination as three strips marked by 3 discreet parallel blemishes on the road surface. The humberside cameras differ from most truvelos given that they can be rotated in order to photograph the front or rear of a vehicle, however they do not monitor the speed on the carriage way in the opposite direction, only the side of the road that they are on.

They have had an extremely negative effect on driver behaviour since installation a few months ago, drivers going at 40 are now common place obviously unaware of what the NSL sign means. Tailgaiting and inappropriate overtakes are going to kill someone unless these cameras are removed asap.

Heard that there was a fairly major accident on Market Weighton Hill the other day which is where four of these "safety" cameras are situated.

Tonight I was following someone doing 60 who decided to brake as soon as they saw the camera, panic braking classically illustrated. What other examples of negative effect have you seen?

By installing these cameras they have got rid of several excellent overtaking areas.

The main negative effect the cameras have caused is 'bunching' of traffic behind motorists unaware of the speed limit, people who would have taken the road at 60 (which is perfectly save for the most part) are now driving at a painfully slow 45 and braking to 40 each time they pass a camera.

This in itself would not be a huge problem if the road were short, but its not - its almost 30miles long - its the only feasible route between Hull and York. This, as I'm sure you've witnessed, leads to extremely irate drivers who are desperate to pass but cannot, due to the lack of places to overtake. This problem is compounded by the genius siting of the speed cameras: on the only 2-lane sections of single carriage way, in place to allow drivers to overtake slow moving vehicles while going up hill. Now drivers start to overtake but becuase they don't want a speeding ticket so do so at 45.

The result: a convoy of furious tailgaiting motorists, desperate to do anything to overtake and taking extreme risks to do so.

It would be very interesting to see the number of fatal crashes before and after speed cameras when the data becomes available. I would bet they will increase substantially.