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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 18:22 
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The Safe Speed 'official' petition to scrap speed cameras is launched today:

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/scrapcam

Please sign.

I'll develop some promotional materials and post them to this thread.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 18:57 
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Tried to sign it about 10 mins ago BUT the email it says it has sent for me to confirm the signature has not arrived as yet.

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Well if my name wasn't on the official subversives list, it is now! :P

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 20:47 
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Signed here, I have two lists I can forward it to, and will do that now - remember it's no good just signing it yourself, we need as many people as possible to hear it and sign up.

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Somehow my last post got knocked -signed it , past it on to kid/sister /anyone i could think of


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Looking good! It now has 99 signatures and is ranked 411/2,809 on the Downing Street web site.

When it reaches 100 signatures - in the next five minutes, I expect, we're guaranteed a reply.

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My signature added too. I'll pass it on to everyone I know.

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SafeSpeed wrote:
When it reaches 100 signatures - in the next five minutes, I expect, we're guaranteed a reply.
Wonder what that'll be...

:speakno: "LA LA LA, we're not listening", I'd imagine.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 04:35 
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Here's the 'lauch' PR issued at 03:06 this morning:

PR444: Safe Speed launches official 'Scrap Speed Cameras' petition

news: for immediate release

On the same day that Department for Transport announced an increase in road
deaths, Safe Speed has launched a 10 Downing Street petition to scrap speed
cameras in the interests of road safety.

Click here: http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/scrapcam

Safe Speed has a cast iron case against speed cameras:

* The benefit claimed for speed cameras has been overrated by 400% due to
neglect of regression to the mean effect at speed camera sites.

* The claimed speed / accident relationship based on average speeds is
basically complete drivel.

* Only 5% of injury crashes involve ANY 'speeding' vehicle - and that INCLUDES
crashes caused by rogue drivers, nutters racing on the highway, reckless
drivers, stolen cars, emergency services drivers and drunk drivers.

* Speed cameras come with at least 30 detrimental side effects, none of which
have been officially studied.

* Vehicle activated signs are more effective than speed cameras at reducing
vehicle speeds in dangerous locations.

* We earned ourselves the safest roads in the world long before we had speed
cameras, but since we've had speed cameras we have been losing our world lead.

* Road deaths are not falling as expected.

* Road crash hospitalisations haven't fallen for a decade according to the
British Medical Journal.

* If it wasn't for a sustained and ongoing reduction in pedestrian activity the
road safety results would be considerably worse.

* The Statistics Commission has warned Department for Transport that their
'serious injury' statistics are not a reliable series - and that's the only
category showing an improvement.

Paul Smith, founder of the Safe Speed road safety campaign
(www.safespeed.org.uk) said: "I urge everyone to sign this petition for one
reason and for one reason only - because speed cameras are detrimental to road
safety."

"A proper examination of the case leaves absolutely no doubt that speed cameras
have made road safety worse."

<ends>

You can, of course, forward this anywhere.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 13:06 
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SafeSpeed wrote:


It's started well.

It's 4th highest ranked from the last 300 Downing Street Petitions with 267 signatures. Only 16 petitions are younger.

The overall ranking is presently 219 out of 2,804.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 13:37 
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SafeSpeed wrote:


Now 345. In the last 30 minutes it's put on 78, a rate of 2.6 per minute.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 14:08 
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441 at 13:06. It's put on 96 in 30 minutes, a rate of 3.2 per minute.

I must say it's great fun to watch. :)

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So we can see!

I've got a freshly painted wall here, off to check how thats getting on ;)


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RobinXe wrote:
So we can see!

I've got a freshly painted wall here, off to check how thats getting on ;)


Well, it's my baby. :hehe:

btw, it broke 500 at 13:21

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 14:28 
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Have you made Richard Hammond aware of it? Look what inclusion in his column did for the road pricing petition!


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558 at 13:36. In the last 30 minutes it's put on 117, a rate of 3.9 per minute.

It's definitely a rising star and is ranked 134 out of 2809.

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RobinXe wrote:
Have you made Richard Hammond aware of it? Look what inclusion in his column did for the road pricing petition!


The PR has gone out, and is 'doing stuff'. There's plenty of time to push here and push there. I'm right on it, I promise. :)

But PLEASE - EVERYONE - tell your friends. Post it to other web sites and forums. Above all spread the word.

And get other members of your families to sign too.

And DO IT NOW. I'd love to be able to issue a '1,000 in the first 24 hours' PR.

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Let a friend know - he has posted it on the Hilux Surf forum.

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This very similar petition failed to get much more than a canned "speed cameras work" response. Admittedly it only got just over a thousand signatures, but still, it shows they don't take these things too seriously:

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/NoSpeedCameras/

Now if we could get nigh on a million signatures like the travel tax one has, that's a little harder to ignore.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 15:13 
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CarlP wrote:
This very similar petition failed to get much more than a canned "speed cameras work" response. Admittedly it only got just over a thousand signatures, but still, it shows they don't take these things too seriously:

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/NoSpeedCameras/

Now if we could get nigh on a million signatures like the travel tax one has, that's a little harder to ignore.


Yeah, but I'm doing this one and I have media contacts. :)

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