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We'll have our light blue S2000 then too!!! Can we come along, please, please :lol:


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We'll have our light blue S2000 then too!!! Can we come along, please, please :lol:


Its the start of a colony.... :lol:

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Nice one!!
Have you found www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showforum=25

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SiDHEaD wrote:
Puggit wrote:
We'll have our light blue S2000 then too!!! Can we come along, please, please :lol:


Nice one!!
Have you found www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showforum=25
Of course, but I'm not posting as 'Puggit' on there!!

End of thread hijack.

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http://www.tnn.co.uk/CurrentIssues/plon ... 7058934465

M4 Camera Partnership in Cash for Questions Row




The Camera Partnership behind the revenue-generating speed cameras on the M4 has been caught trying to rake in more money - by charging for information on the causes of accidents on the motorway.



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As soon as the M4 cameras were announced, the Association of British Drivers approached speed camera bosses to find out what had caused the accidents that justified them. The Wiltshire and Swindon Speed Camera Partnership initially told the group that they did not hold data on what causes crashes - an astonishing admission which gives the lie to the claim that the cameras are there for safety reasons.

When the ABD pressed the point, the partnership said that it would have to search its database - and would charge £111.63 "per positive search result".

The ABD believes the Partnership may be deliberately trying to conceal the causes of crashes on the M4, perhaps because so few of them were due to drivers exceeding limits.

ABD Road Safety Spokesman Mark McArthur-Christie said "Many people are unaware that Partnerships are allowed to impose cameras no matter what the causes of accidents - even where they have not been caused by exceeding a speed limit. But it is stunning that first they admit they don't know what causes crashes, then they try to charge £111 to reveal information that should already be in the public domain. They should have these figures at their fingertips. What are they trying to hide?"

Brian Gregory, ABD Chairman, takes up the story "We've found time and again that camera partnerships will do anything to conceal the causes of crashes, because so few are down to exceeding a speed limit. It's time for the Partnerships to end their culture of secrecy and spin and just come clean. We want to see each partnership showing the causes of accidents that have led to cameras on their websites."

The ABD believes that this shows that camera partnerships are unaccountable and running out of control. McArthur-Christie concludes "The UK's road safety policy has become obsessed with speed to the detriment of everything else. Having a camera policy which runs down traffic police departments and takes no account of the causes of crashes is like abolishing the NHS and replacing it with machines in every high street that just dispense aspirin no matter what the patient's complaint, and about as effective."

(comment: it makes my blood boil... Anton)


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Oh and by the way Inspector Smith... if you want a witness statement to either event feel free to contact me through Safe Speed.

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If he would like, he can have my video footage of the Iceland Artic in lane 3 - I'm no expert, but I'm fairly sure that's not legal !!


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"Autocar" carried a photo shoot in current copy. Basically saying drivers should have started protesting earlier. Seemed a tame piece overall. Our pet Inspector Smith was quoted as saying the usual - that "traffic is flowing at the lower speed"...

Well - don't drive on M4 very often... but M6 is not safer for having Steve's vans there. Accidents can occur at 70 mph and under - usually a COAST skill is missing.

As for "drivers have nothing to fear if they stick at the speed limit" -

Wrong! We have plenty to fear by not focussing on real accident causations - driver error and non- use of COAST.

In the letters page - there was one of interest. Maybe Ross can elaborate?

Guy wrote in about a mobile on a Melbourne motorway bridge. Apparently they cancelled hundreds of tickets as it had not been calibrated properly.

They then decided to abandon to enforcement - and accident rate on this motorway ceased..... :? :?

Letter did not give any other details...

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I'm sure this relates to the Western Ring Road where fixed speed cameras were found to be faulty resulting in MILLIONS of dollars being refunded and compensation paid to people who lost their license / job due to the cameras.

The cameras were taken out of service for quite a long time and the number of accidents on that section of the road reduced.

The cameras are back on now and it will be interesting to see the stats in another 6 months or so.

What's the bet they will be up again :evil:

http://theage.com.au/articles/2004/05/14/1084289885456.html
http://www.policespeedcameras.info/tv_reports2.html
http://www.abc.net.au/melbourne/stories/s1255503.htm

I could not find a link to the reduction is accidents but I have definitely read about it at some stage.

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