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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 00:41 
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Any possiblity that we can name and identify those people on the Scamerati who are 'elected' to councils, etc?

Lib-Dem, Labour or Tory, if we knew who they were, we could target their electoral wards with information they'd rather not be seen.

Any comments from others?


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 01:58 
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Oh, I'm worried about this idea!

Firstly it isn't very productive to 'look like a vendetta'.

Secondly, I don't think there are any elected people in camera partnerships. Once a council committee has agreed to form a partnership, it leaves their hands and becomes autonomous. There's some stuff in the Highlands forum about how this works in practice. (Check out the oldest posts in that forum).

Thirdly, we need to make friends, not enemys. We already have our 'natural' enemies - that's more than enough. (I can't claim to be perfect in this respect - I do make enemies here and there. Nevertheless it's something to try to guard against rather than encourage.)

Fourthly, we have to recognise that there are many members of the public who still believe the government's case. We're strong and well supported, but not strong enough or well supported enough to be able to guarantee to win. And it's best not to play a losing hand. (I'm imagining a case where we'd targetted an official, but the next public vote doesn't go our way.)

So I really think we have to steer well clear of PaulF's idea.

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I agree with Paul (SafeSpeed) here - we need to remain actually and visibly apolitical, appealing to all partys' better sides not Max Cliffording them.


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So far I have not come across any elected members of a scameraship.

The scamera Boards seem to comprise officials and not councillors.

I believe that when a site is proposed then the relevant Council has to approve its operation. But this is an assumption.


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