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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 18:38 
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This from an email from a journalist:

...but there are some facts I desperately need to verify - and it's possible you could help.

I'm sure I read a sentence on Brake's website in November that said that Mary Williams had suffered some kind of family tragedy (two, in fact) related to traffic accidents.

That infromation no longer appears to be on their site, I believe deliberately and in direct relation to our dispute.

I wondered if you know anything that might enable is to substantiate a claim that Brake is founded/run by relatives of accident victims, specifially Mary Williams.

Can anyone help with documented evidence? Urgently please... I should have posted this on Friday. :(

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My understanding was that Mary Williams had lost a child and a husband in road accidents, but can't substantiate this, only to say that (I think) I read it on Pistonheads...

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According to this article, it was her mother and boyfriend:

http://www.thebikezone.org.uk/motorcarn ... oryou.html

It is my recollection that one was killed by a lorry with faulty brakes.

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Paul, have you asked Mad Moggie/Wildy? Being in Brake for a while they'd know, and I'm sure one or other of them mentioned something about it a little while ago.

Edit: Google search - mother and partner again, but first couple or three say "speeding motorists", but what Peter said about a lorry with faulty brakes rings a bell with me too.

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Paul this document may be usefull

loads of other causes of accidents I would broadly agree with that mry has put her name to.

loads of her stats to fire back
http://www.brake.org.uk/UploadedFiles/2 ... 2-25PM.pdf

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This might be of some use but only seems to go up to November 2004:

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.brake.org.uk

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It was the runaway lorry which hit a post office in Sowerby Bridge wasn't it?

Probably was speeding but then it had come down a steep hill with no brakes.

Google cache

An article concerning the manslaughter case, mentions victims.

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The accident happened when a ten-tonne lorry carrying a 20-tonne load of gravel ran out of control down a steep hill, rammed into a BT van, then smashed into a shop and wall.

The lorry driver, 63-year-old Derek Waterworth, of Silverhill Road, Bradford, died in the accident, as did BT van driver Peter Stott, 42, from Luddenden Foot, Halifax.

The other victims were Anne Crossley, 32, from Clifton Street, Sowerby Bridge, and her two-year-old daughter Karen. Angela Rooke, 38, from Park Road, Sowerby Bridge, and Beryl Rose, 49, of West Parade, Sowerby Bridge, also died after the accident.


I'm pretty sure it was this one but I also recall there being another similar accident around the same time.
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Ms Williams founded Brake in 1995 after her mother was killed by a truck.

In 1997, her partner Richard Longworth died in an accident involving an overtaking driver on a rural road in Hertfordshire.


Two separate accidents. The partner died after Brake was formed.
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