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How many of you are Advanced drivers
Yes 19%  19%  [ 17 ]
Yes 19%  19%  [ 17 ]
No 31%  31%  [ 28 ]
No 31%  31%  [ 28 ]
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 00:42 
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A question for you all are any of you Advanced Drivers either with the
1. Institute of Advanced Motorists
2. ROSPA


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... but am seriously considering one or other after my hols.


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The following poll: http://www.safespeed.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=925 is similar.

Presently 35% (19 out of 54 respondents) claim to have taken advanced driver training.

I don't think it's right to limit responses to IAM and RoADA - there's plenty of commercial training out there too. I know - I've done over 20 courses, but your conditions would lead me to answer 'no'.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 08:48 
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Stephen wrote:
1. Institute of Advanced Motorists
2. ROSPA


Limiting to those two, no.

I have a few issues with the IAM's attitude to certain driving practices. I really can't agree with their "letter of the law" policy.

And the less I say about ROSPA the better.


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yes, but not with the 2 you've mentioned.


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IAM since 1993. RoSPA Gold this June ( both car ). Currrently preparing for IAM Bike Test.

I too do not necessarily agree with their letter of the law policy, but still feel the benefits to my driving meant the time and effort involved was worthwhile.

Would recommend it to any driver, while some have trouble with "the system" or steering, most who have done it seem to agree that the improvement in forward planning and observation changes their driving for the better.

Always good to get a 2nd opinion of our driving, even if may not agree with all that is said. Both my IAM and RoSPA observers were willing to discuss and explain things, and were not the stereotypical "i know best" members that both organisations can seem to include.

My IAM Bike observer for is excellent - my riding is much smoother and progressive after a few runs. The bike groups don't seem to suffer from the negative image quite so much.


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Have all the advanced driver courses - IAM, RoSPA, etc. You learn to think about und evaluate each drive. An intelligent driver will always think und seek to improve at all times - after all numpties invent new numpty tricks...or behave with ever increasing stupidity - Darwin gene :wink: :roll: :shock: :o :? :shock:

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I have taken coaching with RideDrive. Also, with some trepidation (for reasons mentioned above), signed up for IAM. I have assessment drive this w/e.


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IAM - Nov 1987
RoSPA - (Silver) - June 1989 - cancelled membership after a year as didnt like their negative attitude to enjoying driving!

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personally I think RoADA (the advanced driving arm of RoSPA) is a lost cause. They are too small and too often ignored by the safety nazis in rospa.

the IAM on the other hand is an organisation struggling to accept current road safety practices and niether supports the current use of speed cameras or current speed limit policy.

Of course there are 1000s of silly old twits who go on about being 'ADVANCED'.

Both the IAM and RoSPA are DSA regonised and both offer a graded test pass (although the IAM's special assessment is not very popular).

the last accredited group is DIAmond, but from what i've heard - their test is very similar to the DSA L test and I think they only got accredited because they blew smoke up the DSA's Ar**


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diy wrote:
personally I think RoADA (the advanced driving arm of RoSPA) is a lost cause. They are too small and too often ignored by the safety nazis in rospa.

RoADA does have the advantage of giving graded results, and requiring retests every three years, which appeals to some of the keener amongst the advanced driving fraternity.

If the IAM required retests it would simply lose thousands of members and a lot of income overnight - but I see no reason why it couldn't offer a kind of two-tier membership to those who wanted it.

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kendalian wrote:
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RoSPA - (Silver) - June 1989 - cancelled membership after a year as didnt like their negative attitude to enjoying driving!


that's why this lot exist.


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PeterE wrote:
diy wrote:
personally I think RoADA (the advanced driving arm of RoSPA) is a lost cause. They are too small and too often ignored by the safety nazis in rospa.

RoADA does have the advantage of giving graded results, and requiring retests every three years, which appeals to some of the keener amongst the advanced driving fraternity.

If the IAM required retests it would simply lose thousands of members and a lot of income overnight - but I see no reason why it couldn't offer a kind of two-tier membership to those who wanted it.


IAM still does 10 x the number of tests than RoADA. Don't forget Senior observers retest every 3 years and have to score 80+ to retain status.

IAM sees the advanced test as a minimum standard to join and move on (advanced plus, observer training, special assessment etc). the IAM advanced test should not be seen as a gold standard. I also think the bronze silver gold rospa grades sets the opinion that a RoSPA gold person is as good as they can get. This is wrong Everyone can improve.

Also RoSPA stepped up it campaign to lower the Drink drive limit today - I cannot see the logic behind this?


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