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johnsher: "there's one more thing to consider - these laws were brought in because "the boys" like to congregate at various sites and, amongst other things, lay rubber. Now if it's a deserted industrial park I couldn't care less but when it's outside your house at 1am then it becomes a problem. Obviously you'd expect a little discretion in the application."

One other thing to consider, the industrial areas are often deserted at night but some of these little scroats are puttig oil and diesel down to help get things going !!

One client had spent £30,000 in cleaning and resurfacing the car park, local plods attitude was what can we do beside there's no one about here at night.

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Gordon Brown saying I got the country into it's current economic mess so I'll get us out of it is the same as Bomber Harris nipping over to Dresden and offering to repair a few windows.

Chaos, panic and disorder - my work here is done.

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One supermarket near to me, used to encourage Trucks to park in their car park at night, and to spread themselves out please.
This effectively prevented the boy racers from playing and causing damage.
Don't know whether they still do it now though.

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Semper in excreta, nur quantitat variat.

Then that is vandalism/criminal damage, the wheelspinning is purely coincidental. They should be charged for the damage they do not for the act of wheelspinning.

It depends on the circumstances. If I'm driving in snow and get a little wheespin then should I be fined? On the other hand there are occasions where a fine could be appropriate but I'm sure these would be covered by "causing a public nusence" or some such offence.

So for the wheelspin. Nothing, if the wheelspin causes a nusence or damage then the fine should be for that.

Homer absolutly, it's not the wheelspinning I'm up in arms about it's the damage, these wheelspin sessions or burnouts are often responsible for expensive criminal damage, they in the case I outlined are definately not no harm, no foul.

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Gordon Brown saying I got the country into it's current economic mess so I'll get us out of it is the same as Bomber Harris nipping over to Dresden and offering to repair a few windows.

Chaos, panic and disorder - my work here is done.

http://www.wildcrafts.co.uk

Its more fun in an uncoupled unit!

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Science won over religion when they started installing lightning rods on churches.

The thing is, if they started fining for this here, they'd probably find some way to rig up a smoke detector to a gatso housing and start fining poorly maintained diesels as well as people wheelspinning.

Still, it would be fun to drift through one of those, resulting in a side-on shot with no visible numberplate.

you have a 1.6 mazda mx-5. it runs a supercharger and methanol injection. it's tested at 250BHP. You have no traction control. Do you think you would be able to pull away without wheelspin at all??
should you even be stopped for this let alone fined?
I was and was warned they could (and would if I said anything) do me for not being in control of the vehicle.
I do not think given the misuse of powers these days that you can impose a fine or jail for this type of thing, a warning if it's needed yes, but not a threat under this situation.

Can you make you're avatar a little larger please Overfinch, I'm struggling to see it.

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What makes you think I'm drunk officer, have I got a fat bird with me?

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if your going to show support, might as well make sure everyone knows it!
it's gone now

I'm not saying you should remove it (it isn't down to me to decide anyway), but it was severely knocking everything out on the forum.

Why not set it as your siggy instead?

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What makes you think I'm drunk officer, have I got a fat bird with me?

I don't seam to have the option of using an image in my sig. Unless I'm missing something?

Don't know about anyone else - i put mine in my image hoster and set up the image (img) in my sig.( like putting a pic on here)

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

Anti-social behaviour laws cover this already.

A boy-racer recently had his car confiscated here in Aberdeen for mid-night nuisance and loud head-banger music.

I have a fairly powerful car and can spin wheels at will practically. I don't spin wheels at will because I don't like paying for 225/40 ZR18 tyres. I'm sure many here will run more expensive tyres and will fully agree.

That said I'm not comfortable with the idea that "intent" can be judged or effectively imposed in a Black & White legal world.

As for the supercharged Mazda, I agree this is an abuse of power. Can they prove you weren't in control of your car?? I think that would be difficult.

It is entirely possible to keep a vehicle under control with degraded traction due to wheelspin. If it weren't then the popular boy-racer sport of drifting wouldn't be possible.

That said I wouldn't condone anyone hanging the tail out on their car on the public highway, as I've nearly been creamed by someone a few years back doing exactly this on a fairly narrow single carriageway coming the opposite direction with his back axle on my side of the road.

To sum up though, I do not think this country needs a law pertaining to breaking traction of the driving wheels through excessive power.

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Hmm. Wheelspinning in the taxi... watch that meter going up.

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Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler - Einstein

a volvo by any chance? the FM12 seems a little eager to lose traction even when moving

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Amazing the effect that new BP fuel has

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on