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What do you think the speed limit is on this stretch of road?
30mph 17%  17%  [ 9 ]
40mph 15%  15%  [ 8 ]
50mph 11%  11%  [ 6 ]
60mph/NSL 57%  57%  [ 30 ]
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 11:47 
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I'm interested to hear from as many people as possible. I'll explain why in a later post.

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I voted NSL. Howeever, I think I can see a grey car just around the bend almost at rightangles to the road, suggesting either a farm building or very difficult junction at that point. to that end, at the very least, there should be a big SLOW sign approaching that corner.


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The NSL looks applicable to that visible stretch shown in the photo but I couldn’t possibly pass comment on what the road should actually be without knowing what is around the corner or behind the camera. The unshown areas may warrant a 30 limit, hence making an NSL limit just for the short visible stretch confusing at best.

What is behind/beyond the view of the camera?


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I voted NSL, but agree with Roger and smeggy's reservations


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I'm likely completely wrong, but according to the centre line marking it seems to be 40 mph or less and a hazard up ahead.


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It looks like NSL territory but I've voted for 30. The central lines do seem to suggest a 30 limit.

NB: I'd have probably gone for 50mph if it wasn't for Bobmalcs's comment :wink:

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i'm afraid i voted for what a reasonable speed for the stretch was rather than what i think the limit is.

unless the repeaters are very obscured (possible given the tree cover) there could be a 30sign next to the camera.


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I wouldn't be surprised to find it has a 50 limit, but from the look of it I would probably treat it as NSL.

It's not always easy to judge from a single photograph because of the foreshortening effects of some camera lenses etc. - not that I know much about photography.

BTW, sorry about the side issue - but do we honestly derive much benefit from hazard lines? I don't, but what about you?

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BTW, sorry about the side issue - but do we honestly derive much benefit from hazard lines? I don't, but what about you?


One time I find the hazard lines of particular assistance is when I want to overtake a 'dippy' (one who is driving on dips only) at night. If there are hazard lines I don't normally go for a look. But when there aren't hazard lines I move to his rear right three quraters blind spot then flick on my mainbeams for a proper look. Because I'm in his blind spot I don't dazzle him in his mirrors. (I invented this technique myself, and it works a charm... :) )

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NSL, purely on the lack of any signs or street lighting.


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TripleS wrote:
BTW, sorry about the side issue - but do we honestly derive much benefit from hazard lines? I don't, but what about you?


One time I find the hazard lines of particular assistance is when I want to overtake a 'dippy' (one who is driving on dips only) at night. If there are hazard lines I don't normally go for a look. But when there aren't hazard lines I move to his rear right three quarters blind spot then flick on my mainbeams for a proper look. Because I'm in his blind spot I don't dazzle him in his mirrors. (I invented this technique myself, and it works a charm... :) )


Fair enough - new tricks - there's always another one, which is good.

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TripleS wrote:
BTW, sorry about the side issue - but do we honestly derive much benefit from hazard lines? I don't, but what about you?


One time I find the hazard lines of particular assistance is when I want to overtake a 'dippy' (one who is driving on dips only) at night. If there are hazard lines I don't normally go for a look. But when there aren't hazard lines I move to his rear right three quraters blind spot then flick on my mainbeams for a proper look. Because I'm in his blind spot I don't dazzle him in his mirrors. (I invented this technique myself, and it works a charm... :) )


Smart. :yesyes: My own technique is rather similar, though slightly less considerate. I think (but am not certain) that I subconsciously make similar use of the centre line, but I tend to go for the main beam further back as I p[ull out for the look-see. The mirror dazzle that dippy cops nearly always leads to a lift-off-the throttle, helping the manoeuvre if it's clear but I still have the 1 - 2-second catch-up gap if he then plays SBs.

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It looks like an NSL, but my alarm bells would be ringing:

1. Can't see where it goes next, I'd be slowing drastically.
2. From the hedge line on the right I'd suspect it tightens to a 90 degree, or there's a T junction in there somewhere.
3. Is that a stationary van on the bend?


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I voted for 30 mph, because I suspect it is one of those sneaky ones. Far too many highway authorities have imposed 30 mph limits on rural roads like this, on the grounds that they are within a mile or so of a village centre :x

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I guessed 50 because of the hazard lines - btw, this might be a stupid question but where exactly is the three quarters blind spot, as I often have similar problems with dippys, but also have a combined 370 watts to throw at the problem...

I visualise it from what you say as implying that I should be partly alongside them already, and I'm not comfortable with that if they're traveling on dipped beam.


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TripleS wrote:

BTW, sorry about the side issue - but do we honestly derive much benefit from hazard lines? I don't, but what about you?


I find them very useful.

If I am on a twisty road waiting for an opportunity to overtake I will look out for the hzard lines ending around a bend as it tells me there is a stretch of good visibility around the corner and I can move up to the overtaking position rather than hanging on someones tail all the time.


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i voted 30mph, an area of no street lighting, the 30 repeater just behind the area where the photo was taken with the next repeater around the bend

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i voted 30mph, an area of no street lighting, the 30 repeater just behind the area where the photo was taken with the next repeater around the bend


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I voted 30 as the road looks like it supports NSL :twisted: , apart from the need for a slow sign near to the bend

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Homer wrote:
TripleS wrote:

BTW, sorry about the side issue - but do we honestly derive much benefit from hazard lines? I don't, but what about you?


I find them very useful.

If I am on a twisty road waiting for an opportunity to overtake I will look out for the hzard lines ending around a bend as it tells me there is a stretch of good visibility around the corner and I can move up to the overtaking position rather than hanging on someones tail all the time.


You're assuming that the lines have been painted in the correct place though - I can think of examples where there are double white lines on stretches where its perfectly safe to overtake and likewise dashed lines where there isn't a hope in hell of a safe overtake.

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