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I found this item on the Daily Mail website. Apologies for the very long link.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/a ... ge_id=1770

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Anyone who tells you that nothing is impossible has never bathed in a saucer of water.

I doubt very much that he was doing 105mph in the photo published, since he had his visor up!!

Was the judge not listening when he explained why he had done it

Mike.

On a beemer like that, with the shield up, it will deflect the wind over his lid...

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Pecunia Prius Equitas et Salus

mans a plonker for riding such an identifiable bike.... if you were going to pull stunts like that you'd want the most common bike on the market.

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Fear is a weapon of mass distraction

Reminds me of a gatso near where I used to work. I think it was set to go off at 32mph and it regularly flashed me as I went towards it on my bike. I was told that because there was no VRM you couldn't be prosecuted as you couldn't be identified 100%! Gulp. Oh well, this was a few years ago...

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Pecunia Prius Equitas et Salus

Oops!

We can now be done for simply wiping our visor or perhaps even giving hand signals!! That's a bummer!!

REMINDER TO SELF "Must have hands on controls at all times - Natalie reckons that's safer"

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It's tricky doing nothing - you never know when you're finished

He WAS giving a hand signal!

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Pecunia Prius Equitas et Salus

Ah, I see what you mean…

Dear old Nat the safety expert, is perhaps saying, “It’s dangerous to give instructions by hand, but OK to signal intentions.”

Phew, it all makes sense now!?!

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It's tricky doing nothing - you never know when you're finished

Yeah, she obviously knows all about bikes then. I guess its safer to ride along with a dirty visor or a really distracting itch (or not signal...) because doing any of these would mean taking a hand of the bars...

I suppose I'll have to stop when I need reserve as well then...

stupid cow.

Fair play to the guy and bummer that he was caught out.

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Science won over religion when they started installing lightning rods on churches.

Yeah, that was my first reaction, but someone in that position must surely know what they're talking about.

Nope. We must be the stupid ones. And all this time I thought it was perfectly safe. It just goes to show.

We need more Natalies!!!

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It's tricky doing nothing - you never know when you're finished

Next thing they'll be fitting hand-presence switches in the bars for our own safety...

Did anyone hear a tinkly bell sound...?

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Science won over religion when they started installing lightning rods on churches.

I remember once reading about some guys who had all lost an arm. They had adapted bikes and were given a licence to ride with one hand. These guys did track days – the lot.

Natalie’s stitched them up good and proper……

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It's tricky doing nothing - you never know when you're finished

Since it wasn't a one-off, but a regular event (speeding and gesticulating) I suppose he just went a bit too far.
Next time he'll either buy an ordinary bike, or not speed !

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We all know what this is really about. The scammers got all these photos of a biker taking the p*ss and said "We will do anything, at any cost to the public purse to get him." They then spent inordinate amounts of time and money to ensure an example was made of this person who had the temerity to try to "get away with it".

It's like contempt of court being viewed as a more serious offence than murder. Well, I made that up but you see what I am getting at. Authority must be obeyed... you will obey .... obey...

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Malcolm W.
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When you stop and think about it this does seem a bit strange.

Story goes that the cops asked BMW to identify the exact model of bike, which turned out to be fairly rare; then tracked down the only local ones until they got a match on the drivers leathers. Presumably, once the feds had knocked on his door the accused then 'fessed up.

As far as I can see, if the rider of the bike had kept schtum / pleaded NG it is hard to see how a charge could have stuck, as they clearly had no positive means of ID. Whilst the evidence sounds solid at face value when you think a bit harder it becomes a bit shaky. Think about whether they have ID'd the bike or the rider, for example. For a kick off they have no positive ID of the bike, only the knowledge that it's rare, and perhaps has modified lights. Do they know for sure that all other bikes in the country don't have the same mod?

Now if they can't positively ID the bike then how can they NIP / s172 the RK? How can they prove beyond reasonable doubt that another such combination of bike / leathers doesn't exist? Even if the rider were to attend court in person they can't compel him to wear particular clothes, and without them he's completely unidentifiable!

Seems to me like a fair few steps in the evidential chain have been missed out here, in the interests of making an example of someone for what was basically a harmless and victimless crime.

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CSCP Latin for beginners...
Ticketo ergo sum : I scam therefore I am!

Bus driver? Needs Licence for job? Dim?

And I have 2 sets of leathers and one textile kit...

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Science won over religion when they started installing lightning rods on churches.

Thats OK then, the one handed middle finger wave I try always to give the SCP vans is at well below the speed limit

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Richard Ceen
We live in a time where emotions and feelings count far more than the truth, and there is a vast ignorance of science (James Lovelock 2005)