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I doubt it! Digital ID will only happen when they see the cost/benefit ratio rise. It's going to cost a bomb to introduce right now and for what exactly?? Even with all the scameratis' money burning schemes, their current collective turnover won't even pay for the tags, never mind the hardware to hold and process the database. Didn't even mention the staffing costs.....

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I doubt it! Digital ID will only happen when they see the cost/benefit ratio rise. It's going to cost a bomb to introduce right now and for what exactly?? Even with all the scameratis' money burning schemes, their current collective turnover won't even pay for the tags, never mind the hardware to hold and process the database. Didn't even mention the staffing costs.....[/quote]

And don't forget the record (financial and technical) of the governments software and IT schemes - like the £5 swing - (rope and bit of stick) that turned into a playground by the time the "experts" had finished with it - and still needed months of work to perform correctly.

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

opened up an old thread i know.

I put this safe plate to the test and I come up with the following results using a vivitar digital cam, 1st pic is with the light in the room off and the 2nd one with it on, works pretty well imo but this is after 5-6 light coats.


http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a129/ ... ighton.jpg


http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a129/ ... ighton.jpg

Sadly that is not a very fair test - it needs to be taken in a way they replicates the scenario of a Gatso flashing a car - ie. at an angle and with a very fast flash-synced shutter (eg. 1/1000sec). Also if using a digital camera then record in RAW mode because it will retain a higher dynamic range so that later manipulation might be more successful. The tricky bit is knowing how your camera's flash compares with the 250W one used in the Gatso, because you would need to adjust the distance to compensate. My maths is suggesting you would need to use the inverse square law to calculate it....

Gareth

Film doesn't saturate anywhere near as cleanly as the pixels of CCD/CMOS digital imagers. Gatsos and Truvelos use film........

And leave half the plate untreated.

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Paul Smith
Our scrap speed cameras petition got over 28,000 sigs
The Safe Speed campaign demands a return to intelligent road safety

Ok, I tested the safe plate the best I can, really need a better camera with a stronger flash as this crap digi one aint gonna do it, head on real close it works, at an angle real close u can see the side of the number plate get brighter, poss with a better flash it can work, cant test this until i do.

So i also saw that u can get a phantom plate and a lens cover is this legal in uk ? is it worth it and can it be detected by the naked eye.

Im only asking cos im a paranoid guy, I dont speed and obey the law at all times when its 30 i do 30 when its 40 i do 40 cos it aint worth losing your licence over, but.....

red light cameras, scare the hell out of me, cos they can change and catch u so fast, earlier today i found myself in the most horrible situation where from the approach i saw that it was green and then bang the sun shines right in my view, even with the sun visor down i struggled to see and had to guess that it was still on green which luckily at the last moment it was.

So to be honest I dont want to be one of the unlucky ones especially that im still in my probationary period of my licence here in the uk 6pts and KO.

So really I want to protect myself until im on the 12pts system but thats not to say I will start speeding after this period.

You might be able to get a brilliant flash, but how will you know that your setup is quantatively representative (flash power/distance/exposure/saturation) of a real film Gatso/Truvelo setup?


It is an offence to render your VRM unreadable to any enforcement camera.

mmm I see, but at the same time I have a right to protect myself

I'll save mpaton the trouble ......

You have a right to protect yourself from being caught breaking the law?

lol good point smeggy,

ah well never mind, time to move onto something else lol.

moral to the story is dont speed.

which i dont lol

There's nothing stopping you from carrying on your research 'for educational purposes only'

But then again - in truvello country - you might just have to temporarly relocate your front plate inside the car ,as you find it loose , after "witnessing and chasing some people trying to remove it", and plates do not travel to well on the top of the dash (especially near cameras).

No illegal suggestions are being made - just an observation

Ok for educational purposes.

I was thinking of trying a reflective polish of some sort, plastic polish meguirs ? clear lacquer perhaps not against the law to clean ya licence plate is there.

If it's clear it wont scatter light back to its source unless that source is perpendicular to the plane of reflection.

I would suggest that if you are headed towards a junction and the sun dazzles you that you slow down or stop, rather than press on through and pray!

My last post was done "tongue in cheek" - other than that - one regular poster in here recommends a technique called COAST.

(cOME IN IG- and explain all - he will not be amused with my suggestion)

It would appear that some proper testing has been done by Lancashire’s Trading Standards and Lancashire Police


http://www.safe2travel.co.uk/news/newsDetails.asp?id=99

And the real crunch ( though would proof be given if this was effective?? )




Nothing about the wrong effect of speed cams - wonder why??

I have no confidence that the product works, but I have no confidence in the impartiality of the police in this either.

It's also possible that this particular vendor was selling tins of hairspray (or similar) with a label applied. Of course all cans of this stuff are probably something like that.

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Paul Smith
Our scrap speed cameras petition got over 28,000 sigs
The Safe Speed campaign demands a return to intelligent road safety

Three seconds. Amber light. Every set of traffic lights.
And if it's less than 3 seconds that's a valid excuse.

I saw a taxi with some numberplate spray on a little while ago. It's taxi plate was loose and it was flickering my headlight back at me like crazy. Not exactly undetectable.

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Andrew.