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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 12:27 
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Gangs of thieves are using power saws to cut down parking meters filled with coins in central London, according to Westminster Council.
The council said it had lost more than £200,000 in revenue in the past 10 weeks due to the thieves.

The problem has become so bad that the council is now speeding up plans to replace its meters with a new way of recovering parking fees.

It may widen a scheme for customers to pay fees by mobile phone.

The scheme has been trialled in Soho and Covent Garden.

Alistair Gilchrist, from Westminster Council, said the thefts are costing the council as much as £20,000 a week.

"In the last 10 or 12 weeks it's really become serious... it's not just in our area," he said.

He said the police and council believed it was not just one culprit but "there could be gangs operating in Westminster".

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The thieves have been using angle-grinders and pipe cutters to slice the meters in two, while others have been using master keys to open meters and remove the coins - as much as £70 from each meter.

As well as bringing the payment by phone scheme forward, Mr Gilchrist said the council was also offering a reward for any information about the meter thefts.

The Metropolitan Police said officers have already arrested people carrying meter keys, and have attended disturbances which may be linked to the thefts.

It said it was not ruling out the possibility gangs were fighting over control of meter "patches".


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The council said it had lost more than £200,000 in revenue in the past 10 weeks due to the thieves.


I thought all this wasn't supposed to be about revenue rasing?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 17:06 
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I thought all this wasn't supposed to be about revenue rasing?

Of course it's about revenue.
Charging people just to be somewhere doesn't stop them being there.

The parking vultures even have quotas.

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So how do you pay for parking if you do not have a personal mobile phone?


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Why should anyone have to pay just to be somewhere?

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The new system will also be used to catch drivers who have failed to pay three or more tickets. The software can trigger a message to a clamping van, telling the operator where to find an offending vehicle.


What's the betting that cloned plates will treble when this takes over --even if they're just clipped on to park.


And -7m fines were issued last year

1.4m were later cancelled ( 20% )


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Hello,

I saw those machine in Covent Garden and Soho indeed.

It seems they have a slot for credit card. Any body used them yet ?

Are foreign credit card allowed ? if so...it might be another source of fraud and headache for Westminster.
If no credit card allowed.

Can you imagine a tourist parking his car ? not only £8 for two hours plus congestion charge (well, lets say, he forgot to pay the charge), £35, and then use his/her mobile while roaming to pay to park.
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Total bill ---> £50 quid ! oops :(
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I nearly forgot, this same tourist, forgot to move his car every two hours... and bang, ticket, plus wheel clamped !

ouuch...it hurts !

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London is a shoddy enough place as it is and they seem to want to make it a worse place to be in.

Most of this parking enforcement is done unlawfully anyway. Lines wrong, signs wrong, PCNs wrong, NtOs wrong, TROs not in place (Bournemouth). And that's before you get to the Bill of Rights and that NPAS (the 'independent' adjudicators) are funded by parking fines. (sorry, 'penalty charges' which aren't fines or forfeitures)

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