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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 01:34 
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Right then, my Vectra is going back in a couple of weeks, so I need to secure a new car pretty sharpish

My wife wants a BMW 325 i....
I want a Saab 93 HOT aero.

I have a budget of £6500. Any suggestions for other decent motors with a bit of poke in this price bracket?

And what would you peeps have, the bimmer, or the Saab?

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I'd check out http://www.honestjohn.co.uk and the car by car breakdown and see what it says about the various cars you want.

I'd just get a scooby as you have 4wd, 4 doors and a big boot ie a sensible family car :) Might be a little expensive on fuel and insurance though!

If you have not driven rwd before then switching to one going into winter might not be the most sensible thing to do. Friends of mine trashed their beemer last winter, they only had it a month or two and were caught out on ice - they'd always had fwd before.

There are big engined mondeos around for that money like the 2.5 ghia Xs.


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Rear wheel drive wins every time.


True....but there is that current problem with the badge on the front and the badge on the back.....

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If you have not driven rwd before then switching to one going into winter might not be the most sensible thing to do.

I used to have a 5 series bimmer before every rep in the UK had one!

And I had an R plate v6 ghia x mondeo before I leased the vectra :-)

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And I had an R plate v6 ghia x mondeo before I leased the vectra Smile


The mondeo could be easily mistaken for being fwd by its handling though...

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don't under estimate the smug sense of satisfaction us japanese car owners get. My £6,500 would find it's way to a nice Honda Accord.


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don't under estimate the smug sense of satisfaction us japanese car owners get. My £6,500 would find it's way to a nice Honda Accord.



Or as someone else in here might suggest - forget the badge - Skoda Fabia vRS ---VW technology and reliability but cheaper.


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And I had an R plate v6 ghia x mondeo before I leased the vectra Smile


The mondeo could be easily mistaken for being fwd by its handling though...

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The Mondeo is FWD.

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The Mondeo is FWD.[/quote]


Antera - suspect 4x4 is being sarcastic :roll:


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I'm sure you could get an Alfa 156 with the 2.4JTD unit for that sort of price. Perhaps a 156 with the V6..............

Maybe ree.t could confirm????

Outside bet could be a XJ40 series Jag Sov in MINT condition with all the dealer service stamps, and still have 2k left over.

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botach wrote:
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The Mondeo is FWD.

Antera - suspect 4x4 is being sarcastic :roll:


LOL I was racking my brains there trying to remember whether Ford ever did a 4WD version!! :wink:

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Or as someone else in here might suggest - forget the badge - Skoda Fabia vRS ---VW technology and reliability but cheaper.


I did look for an Octavia vRS, but there were none local :x

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The Mondeo is FWD.

Antera - suspect 4x4 is being sarcastic :roll:


LOL I was racking my brains there trying to remember whether Ford ever did a 4WD version!! :wink:


Yes, they did - certainly in the early days of the Mondeo


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The Mondeo is FWD.

Antera - suspect 4x4 is being sarcastic :roll:


LOL I was racking my brains there trying to remember whether Ford ever did a 4WD version!! :wink:


There was a 4x4 Mondeo though :lol:

You could get some Mk1's with four wheel drive. They had a slightly different rear subframe and a split saddle tank for the prop shaft to run through.

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you could get some Mk1's with four wheel drive


Correct although these were only available in the 2 litre petrol version and not the V6


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I did look for an Octavia vRS, but there were none local


The one my boss rang wasn't that reliable, frankly. It was nice to drive (in a soulless VW Group kind of way) but it kept blowing coils.


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I'm sure you could get an Alfa 156 with the 2.4JTD unit for that sort of price. Perhaps a 156 with the V6..............

Maybe ree.t could confirm????

Outside bet could be a XJ40 series Jag Sov in MINT condition with all the dealer service stamps, and still have 2k left over.



You could get much later Jag with some change out of £6.5k. You may be surprised how nimble and stable they are as well as the obvious comfort of ride, avoid '97-'00 V8's.

The biggest advantage, I've found with a big Jag over a German Marque is people 'let you in' in heavy traffic and out at junctions, it is a noticeable difference.

The X-type (>2.0lts) is basically a 4x4 Mondeo underneath

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The biggest advantage, I've found with a big Jag over a German Marque is people 'let you in' in heavy traffic and out at junctions, it is a noticeable difference


As someone who has had many Jags over the years. I would strongly second that!

The point is that Jags are a car that *anyone* can aspire too (And do!) so they do not tend to generate the envy that Mercs, Bimers and so on tend to.

(Landrovers are much the same. Even in this era of anti-4x4 sentiment "Genuine" Land Rovers (and the older, less extravagent, Range Rovers) tend to generate affection even and only rarely the hostility that "Consumer" 4x4's such as X5's and so on tend to attract)

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I'm sure you could get an Alfa 156 with the 2.4JTD unit for that sort of price. Perhaps a 156 with the V6..............

Maybe ree.t could confirm????




:D Hello.

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From what I hear the 2.4JTD is good.
But some adivce,
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3)No bad flat spots or lack of power....AirFlowMeter failure is not unknown
4) Check if suspension bushes have been replaced..look out for creaky front suspension, and bushes that are falling apart..particularly rear bushes..he needs to get down and dirty and really waggle the rear suspension arms to check for any movement. I have seen them on a ramp where they have virtually fallen to bits..early wear is more difficult to spot on a brief inspection.
5)no funny noises from the turbo
6)No grinding or whining noises from the gearbox
7)If its the 2.4jtd then check the engine mounts have not sagged. its a big heavy unit and does smash them up eventually..they are quite pricey


You could get a 2/3 year old one for that. The prices of alfas drop quickly but not as much as they used too. Because their reliability, and build quality has improved :rotfl: . (mine has never broken down :mrgreen: )



The V6 price should be fine, the problem would be finding one.

The 156 comes with TSpark 1.6 (120bhp),1.8(140),
2.0(150)(JTS 165)
JTD 1.9(115) 1.9 MJet(150) 2.4(175)
V6 2.5 (200), 3.2 GTA (250).

You could get a 166 for that sort of money too. They cost ~30,000 new a year later ~13,000. Once again getting hold of one.
engines Tspark 2.0 V6 3.0 (220) 3.2 (240)
Alfa's are not everyones bag, but they do put a smile on your face.

I recomend you buy with the heart :love: not the head :no:
But do drive one.
They sound good, but the V6 :cloud9:

Edit to add;
Had a little look at some AROC newsletters give you an idea.

156
2001 1.8 42000 FSH £3945
2001 2.0 Veloce 70000 FSH £4000
166
3.0 V6 Lusso 79000 FSH £3750

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