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ROFL

http://www.jibblers.plus.com/t2000/news_survey.htm

As always, the best parodies are uncomfortably close to the truth...

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"Show me someone who says that they have never exceeded a speed limit, and I'll show you a liar, or a menace." (Austin Williams - Director, Transport Research Group)

Any views expressed in this post are personal opinions and may not represent the views of Safe Speed

All links updated, everything now points at the site.

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Carl Prescott

Ok, I've added the About Us page, and since I've seen the link posted elsewhere I thought it was about time to clarify the legal footer and provide "due acknowledgement" to the Source Work.

I've also added a new article.

Okay, it's a quiet day and I don't have anything better to be doing than dream up outrageous stuff for Transport 1650. Orange, if you're interested in this PM me with your e-mail address and I'll send it to you. I had time to knock it up as a Word doc with a Photoshopped picture of some hieroglyphics.

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Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler - Einstein

there have been numerous references on SABRE (the first by Peter E, but others have done links too)
and some people want to do articles, and many people said that they loved it.

also that message from the moderator on the actual message boards:


was (i think) about a message i sent to them ages ago (well the 19th). It questioned steve's points and asked for figures for what the £14.6million "surplus" (read profit) the pratnerships made was spent on. i said that though it was peanuts to the government it's a lot of money for most people. i asked if it was spent on removing the need for cameras through better signage,like "dangerous crossroads" and even better could be used to put up a sign with the camera symbol under one of these (merge it in) to quell doubts about why there is a camera there.


questions i asked about Steve's points were "Why when discrediting Paul Smith did you have a go at him ignoring SIs, whereas the 'one-third' stat only refers to fatal accidents?", "why in the 'one-third' stat is the word used 'speed' not 'speeding' could it be that speeding isn't all of this vague 'speed' thingy?", "why in the 'one-third' stat does it say 'a major contributory factor'? that seems to imply other factors." and "if this vague 'speed' is proven to be one of possibly many factors in a minority of fatal crashes, which are a small minority of all crashes, and speeding is just a part of 'speed', then why is a very large part of road safety policy aimed at speeding, if it is such a small factor?" I then said that i was open to a reply, and would examine the facts, but the "one-third" stat is a great buzzword, but on deeper reading it doesn't justify the level of cameras we have.

Steve also said about having both more trafpol and scameras, and that being possible. i asked him "why do we not have them both at the moment, if it's possible and everyone wants more traffic policing, including Paul Smith and other anti-camera campaigns?"

I love the terms petrolheads and speedophiles used by T2000. it shows that they are just anti-car twerps in the pay of public transport companies.



do thay not want to convert. i wanted to be pulled towards cameras, but their reply (after my post didn't turn up i emailed steve, who is also mod on the "discussion list", and asked the same questions, saying that no reply will mean that i will believe that cameras haven't got a leg to stand on) just denouced me and has a go. good one, i shall write several more items for T1650, when i have time, due just to this one post.

Also though we as a group of people will try to beat you down, Paul allows those who disagree vastly to post here. some like Basingwerk, give good debate, others just can't cope. The fact this website is open to all, and no post is vetted unless you as a user troll to much, speaks volumes. T2000's message board and my experience of it also speak volumes. that they can't take the debate further than a few catchprases, and any attempt to question them will be ignored as they haven't got a leg to stand on!

Ouch this was a long rant anti them. they deserve longer, but i feel i'd be wasting your time, most of you can't stand them anyway.

Simon

Surely this feast of drivel must be a ripe subject for parody:

http://www.transport2000.org.uk/news/ma ... icleID=193

Eleven year old Ben from Shepperton described the problem: “When I go to my nan’s house, it is impossible to cross the road to get to the swings.” Six year old Nicole said: “The traffic comes around the bend too fast. I have to wait until there is no traffic at all. It takes ages.” Eleven year old Stephanie said: “The road is never clear. Even at night there are still cars. The speed limit is 30mph but all the cars speed and go at least at 40mph.” Four year old Matt summed it all up: “The cars go so fast I don’t feel safe. It makes me scared.”

Hagley Road in Halesowen, Dudley, West Midlands, was nominated by six children, ranging in age from two to 12. The road has two lanes of traffic in each direction and is used as a link road to the M5 and Birmingham city centre. Consequently it is busy and drivers rarely stick to the 40mph speed limit. Children say that drivers are usually doing at least 50mph.

Interesting how small children know that cars are doing 40 or 50 mph, unless they've observed daddy doing that speed. And what on earth is a four year old doing out unaccompanied on a busy main road?

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"Show me someone who says that they have never exceeded a speed limit, and I'll show you a liar, or a menace." (Austin Williams - Director, Transport Research Group)

Any views expressed in this post are personal opinions and may not represent the views of Safe Speed

Peter, i was going to do that on monday.

the surnames will all be Hounsham (as the number of people involved just shows that few people heard about it cept those who work for t2000 and thier friends) and they will all be named after plants.

the reason it's difficult to cross is going to be something involving "daddy says that crossing roads will kill you instantly so we daren't even cross our drive, let along the big road" or something. the road will be a whopping 3.5 metres across and will be a 20 limit. but lots of cars do 21! also perhaps something about "you walk straight out and the cars keep crashing into one another like dodgems"

Transport 1650 goodie bags of a turnip and a used bus ticket for those 8 who nominated the winner (a valid bus ticket is highly dangerous as kids will want to use it and that requires leaving their house and then they will get killed by various -edophiles!)

Simon

Thanks for the article, I've put it up. I'd love the graphic too, if you would send it to t2000@jibblers.plus.com

I've also added an article on crossing the road, and also a rehash of an article I did last year about speed cameras cutting congestion.

Carl, does the domain name do e-mail forwarding at all? (eg. enquiries@transport2000.co.uk)

Yep, chuck me a mail of what you want forwarding where and I'll sort it (on any of the three domains, it's no problem, I'm not using them for anything else). Mail me on -> fastshow@REMOVE-ME.gmx.co.uk

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Carl Prescott

That explains why they've only managed 150,000 visits in 3 years of being on-line

and no doubt a large number of those hits were from people who just wanted to read something so stupid it makes them laugh.

however of those 150000 a lot must be journalists-the press coverage they get is rather a lot.

they had a go at the ABD for being just a small pressure group and somehow getting lots of attention-what a joke!

Simon

It'd be cool if you just redirected enquiries@transport2000.co.uk to t2000@jibblers.plus.com, to provide some sort of 'contact' address on the website

Done.

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Carl Prescott

Thanks

Today is a momentus day, for Transport 1650 received its first enquiry to the Propoganda Office.

However, it's an e-mail from a kid asking if we can help him with his school project on transport.

The question is whether to play along for a laugh, or just wonder if children are getting more naive these days.

I knew it was worth shelling out for the domain for another couple of years.

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Carl Prescott