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It is not only mobile phones which are a danger in my view sat navs are just as bad if not worse than a hands free mobile. A chap pulled up slightly in front of me at traffic lights the other day and his sat nav was mounted just off the centre of his windscreen. I have seen others mounted in other poor positions. Visual attention diverted, obscuring potential hazards.

and the BIB's on car wars one hand on the wheel and one hand on their phones so whats the difference between them and us?

they are not even trained any more than Mr average anymore so why is it ok for them and not us

the Police driving I have witnesed of late is absolutely appaling imho!

since when did the Police become above the Law as I thought no one was?

A big problem I see emerging is linked to this issue but is more concerned with speed limits set too low and traffic over compensating.

Due to our ridiculous 2mph tolerance, it is actually the norm for people to drive 10-15mph UNDER the posted limit. Many people I have spoken with about this have admitted, when prompted, that due to the boredom of being forced to drive so slowly, their mind wanders and feel, in the case of several, it is a good opportunity to catch up on phone calls.

So, slow the traffic down to the point where they are so bored that they are easily distracted, even to the point of making phone calls to keep their brain active. Of course it's all to do with safety. And when the accident rate increases we can fix that by further reducing speed limits and adding more cameras.

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Ross

Yes I'm a hoon, but only on the track!!!!

This has been done to death in another thread, but please explain why the fact that a certain percentage of satnav users choosing to mount them in really dumb places means that all satnavs are bad.

For reference here is a pic of mine when I had finished installing it, it obscures my view of.. well, a few grounding points, part of the car's HVAC system oh and the bulkhead. I think I can live with that.

Quite possibly, but what's the difference between that and having an identical conversation with one of your passengers?

As a driver, I never answer the phone if moving. The call goes to voice mail - something many people don't seem to realise. I'll then pull over and park as soon as possible to return the call. It happened just this past weekend.

As a cyclist, I have to say that powered vehicle drivers always seem to show me great consideration, but the phone jockeys niggle me. If I have to cross a road with the bike, once I've started I can hardly turn back. So at a roundabout when I see a car that's not signalling and which then makes a left turn in my direction, causing me to stop awkwardly, it's doubly annoying to see that the reason no signal was given was that the driver had one hand on the wheel and the other on the phone.

Because people don't usualy call you to have a general conversation. It usualy requires a higher degree of concentration. That is not the same as driver/passenger small talk.

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Speed camera policy Kills

Well the law is the law, but I still feel it has been misused in this case, and the hand held versus hands free distinction seems quite unjustified to me.

I suspect that drivers using mobile phones are not really adding anything significant to our road safety problems, and to describe them as 'twits' may be indicative of your strength of feeling Ted, but it does not reinforce the validity of that opinion. Clearly we continue to differ on this subject.

Best wishes all,
Twit - apparently!

I should introduce you to my ex-gf! I always remember driving in Italy one day. We had been to Pisa, and were trying to find our way out of town back to the autostrada. There I was, in a strange car, strange country, driving on the wrong side, in a LHD car, all the road signs in Italian - when she decides to have an in depth discussion about politics. I couldn't do it, and had to tell her to shut up!