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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 23:28 
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He's dead?... That's no excuse for speeding

Jan 24 2007

by Mike Hornby, Liverpool Echo

Patricia Cross with the Merseyside police letter stating her father's death 'could not be considered' - Picture: COLIN LANE

THE family of a cancer victim say he is being hounded in death over an unpaid speeding ticket.

They received a letter accusing William Allen of speeding down Balliol Road in Bootle seven months after his family held his funeral.

But when his daughter queried the penalty, and sent his death certificate to the Speed Camera Enforcement Unit, she was told the authorities had enough evidence to pursue the matter and that “mitigating circumstances cannot be considered”.

Mr Allen’s daughter Patricia Cross received the notice of prosecution on December 22, which would have been his 78th birthday.

Today, speed camera officials said they regretted the tone of the letter and blamed their computer system.

Kirkby woman Mrs Cross, who is in remission from cancer, said: “It has brought back all the pain of Dad’s death.

“I just can’t believe they would be so uncaring. I think it is outrageous that they can send letters like this to people as if the fact that he had died was of no consequence whatsoever.

“If a death certificate isn’t enough proof, I don’t know what is.”

William Allen, who was accused of speeding seven months after he died

Mr Allen, an engineer, was diagnosed with asbestos-related lung cancer in January last year. He died the following May.

His family sold his Vauxhall Vectra shortly after his death, but the new owner is not registered with the DVLA.

Until that happens, any motoring offence will continue to be blamed on Mr Allen.

Dave Foulkes, project manager for Merseyside Road Safety Camera Partnership, said: “I regret the tone and content of the letter which was sent to Mrs Cross.

“These notices are issued by computer, and as Mr Allen is still registered as the owner of the vehicle I would urge his family to contact the DVLA urgently to have his name removed.

“Until then, they will continue to receive penalty notices intended for the current owner.”

Mrs Cross, a civil servant, said: “It can’t be blamed only on a computer.

“Surely a person had to open and read my letter and then have a reply sent out.

“I used to work for the Inland Revenue and we received thousands of letters each day. Whenever we were told the taxpayer had died we responded sensitively and quickly ended the matter.

“They have dealt with this without any humanity, sympathy or acknowledgement of our family’s loss.

“Dad had such a wicked sense of humour, he would be rolling about laughing.

“But I worry about what will happen next. My big fear is that there be a policeman at the door saying the car has run over a child.

mikehornby@liverpoolecho.co.uk

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 15:22 
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Fuck, as they say, me!

However, it does serve as a reminder to send off that little piece of the V5 whenever you dispose of a vehicle.


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Was the car sold with a fairly recent 12 month road tax? (It was sold 7 months ago.. ) :scratchchin: I would have either included it in the selling price or surrendered for the partial refund,, They could be in bother over failure to notify and not renewing the VED or declaring a SORN..



But then when a loved one dies.. things like this can be overlooked.


But.. a colleague of mine. His mother died aged 82 years - of just pure old age. She just sat down with a cup of tea one morning and just "fell asleep."

On the day of her funeral.. amongst the condolence cards . ...:roll: an NOIP. His mother had apparently been zapped by a mobile scamera at 35 mph on a road which had been 40 mph for most of her life and recently downgraded to a 30 mph. :roll:

He wrote to the Lancashire pratnership explaining the situation, and mentioned that he had already informed the DVLA of her death and completed all the relevant documentation as regards her driving licence and passport .. and he was delighted to be able to keep these as these items - like her birth, marriage and death certificates were a part of her existence and he has included all this - including the NIP :lol: in a scrapbook which he intends to pass down his family as an "on-going heirloom!" All these items record the person's existence and give an insight into what this person was like after all.

All this is by-the-way :lol: What did upset him was the callous and repeated demand for proof of her death. The death certificate apparently did not mean anything. and he was even told on the telephone that "they were wise to the particular scam of blaming a deceased driver" :furious:

He was a named driver on his mother's insurance policy. Fortunately at the time she drove down a 30 mph dual carriageway.. he was performing major heart surgery on a patient in the specialised and dedicated Wythenshawe unit which deals in major heart and transplant surgery ... witnessed by one consultant anaesthetist, two other surgeons in his team, and three theatre nurses.

He knew his mother would have been collecting her pension at the time she was pinged.. and there was no doubt in his mind that she had driven at her normal 35 mph along the road. She lived in that area for her entire life.. and would have associated that road as 40 mph. My colleague says she always drove down it at 35 mph - even when he was a boy :lol:

He did not dispute she had inadvertently broken the law. He just pointed out that his mother was hopefully in Heaven with his father, despite her "apparent child killing mistake on a road she associated as 40 mph for her entire life on the planet" :lol: He pointed out that they could now endorse a "ghost licence"... but as people now residing in Heaven with "everlasting life" ... this would be a bit superfluous to requirement! :lol:


Eventually they conceded that the old lady was dead. They never apologised to my colleague and his family though. He and his family concluded they were more concerned with their own job security than road safety.

He was once pro-speed camera by the way. (we had the odd "tiff" over a pint :lol: ) He isn't now .... :wink:

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They never apologised to my colleague and his family though


This is typical of "authority" these days. It's even typical of big company customer service staff. They cannot admit they made a mistake. What insecure (and perfect) people they must be.

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Mad Moggie wrote:
"they were wise to the particular scam of blaming a deceased driver" :furious:

And we are wise to their particular scam of accusing an innocent driver.

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