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And you have even repeated their incorrect terminology so deeply it is now ingrained.

Methinks the correct terminology is Carbon Dioxide, as emitting carbon would be somewhat different lol (not dissing you mate )

And I don't believe in AGW, and I have never believed in it. I did my own research looking at different scientific articles years ago and I came to the conclusion it was another load of fear inducing tax promoting codswallop. There is no decent science behind it, and they (the AGW brigade) will not allow anyone to challenge them.

We should be far more concerned about peak oil affecting our economy I think.

And when the sun finishes its current high activity cycle - starting in about 2013 I believe, are we going to drag all these individuals in for a bit of punishment as the temps drop slightly? I think not

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No, they will all be congratulating themselves on a "job well done" for reducing the CO2 and saving us all.

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And if you're wrong and the temperatures do rise, I imagine you will be volunteering yourselves for punishment?

Nope, I will be moving to Cumbria to grow grapes, just like the Romans did a thousand years or more ago. BTW it was a bit hotter then, without AGW

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Here is what one of the scientists shown on the swindle programme has to say about his contribution:
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/ar ... /#more-417

The great thing about prejudice is that it's not susceptible to arguments (one way or the other). I am pleased to be - as mentioned in the responses to the statement linked above - a denier (emotive word, huh). Nobody will change my mind. I don't care about future generations. I will die in about 40 years anyway. I'm driving my high performance car now - I don't care.

This is the middle class, middle aged equivalent of being a "yob" and kicking out against people wanting to tell me what to do.

N.B. This is intended to be provocative.

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They're all swindle programs, of one sort or another.
They're all out to swindle more money out of anyone to save the planet, and their careers and pensions.
He must have had someone whisper in his ear....wonder what they said to him ?

UK plans binding emission targets




Let's set up a carbon enforcement scheme so we can catch technical infringers of our arbitrarily set limits. We still don’t know (we certainly cannot prove) that their actions actually pose any risk but why should the facts stop us from making heap of money from it?


Sound familiar?

Probably something on the lines of: If you don't issue a retraction you will out of a job in a few months, your reputation will be trash, and you will never be employed again.

The feeling I'm getting here is that he was asked a specific question, and answered it knowing that the true reply he was duty bound to give didn't support his beliefs about global warming. Thus he wrapped his answer up in a whole load of ifs and buts which C4 chose to remove, quoting just the answer to the question they actually asked; and now he's throwing his toys out of the pram because the quoted only the facts and not his beliefs.

I'm only hypothesising, but it does seem very suspicious that despite his posturing the one thing he's not actually retracted is the specific information that they attributed to him. I was particularly amused by his complaint

"This use of my remarks, which are literally what I said, comes close to fraud."

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Absolute classic. He should do stand-up.

I must admit, when I read that I did have to look down and check that his name wasn't Callaghan!

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Quoting people out of context, using their contributions cut between irrelevant sections, or editing it to so it says something other than what the contributor was really saying are common creationist/denialist/pseudoscience techniques. I can't say I'm impressed. There are good arguments against getting hysterical about global warming, but this isn't one. I wish the people on the skeptical side would clean up their act.

Well, its all a matter of how its done. Quoting full answers to individual questions, without the accompanying questions and answers is far from unethical. Pasting together words or sentences from various points in the interview to build a response clearly is!

I am absolutely skeptical about man made climate change.

It's too neat it fits the socialist idea too closely, the shouting down of protest is too strong.

Trying to reduce carbon to change the climate is the modern day equivalent to king canute!

If the temperature is rising then lets plan for it and make contingencies not waste time and effort conning ourselves into believing that we can stop it.

Bloody hell if the maldieves flood then so what we can all move north to greenland and siberia. We can do what species have done (and humans have excelled at for years) we can migrate!! We will employ our darwinian instincts.

As for the economic nonsense spouted by stern and the introduction of an artificial market in carbon trading will the opportunities offered up through development of hitherto frozen wastes not create new, real opportunities and markets?

Sit down in a quiet room and think for a moment. Is there anything more absurd than the notion that we can actually change the climate by turning the tv off at the mains and driving fiats??

In the interests of balance, here is a web page containing an exact transcript of what he said on the programme:

http://www.globalwarminghype.com/

As noted elsewhere, it seems well nigh impossible to think of a pro-AGW context out of which they have been removed, and far more likely that he has been "nobbled" after providing this opinion.

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I can't find a single thing he has said that is inconsistent with man made global warming. He is criticizing exaggerations about the consequences and scare stories, which I totally applaud. The press and alarmists love to say, "see, it's a warm winter, that proves it" but climate scientists don't work like that. Wunch appears to be criticizng that journalistic technique, not the theory of AGW itself.

On the same note, I'm surprised no one has posted this yet:

Caution urged on climate 'risks'

The argument is not about whether the world is warming-up...it is.
The argument is about the role played by carbon dioxide, if any.
It is also about the apparent willingness of scientists to dramatically over-play the event for financial or career rewards.
the world has been warmer in the past, it has been cooler in the past. It's not "about the climate stupid"....it's now about "the legions of doom-mongers and spongers, stupid"

or this

The truth is out, science has nothing to do with it!

The Guardian link talks of the book they reviewed saying that temperature rises of "probably beween 1.5 and 6degC by 2100". Using "probably" and a 4.5degC variation surely brings this into the realm of - "We don't actually know but here's a guess and you can trust us 'cos we're scientists". I've yet to see anything truly compelling in support of AGW to make me change my stance of skeptic. I'm heading for the old "If the Government say it, it's likely a lie". Not rational, I know, but neither are the taxes to stop AGW. King Canute comes to mind.

Having now qualified for a Bus Pass, (pretty good service around here), I think it's time I stopped being sensible, traded in my diesel pocket rocket, bought something with a huge V8 petrol engine and thoroughly enjoyed my remaining time.

Time for a nice cup of tea and a biscuit, methinks.

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