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It'd prevent some nutters. And you have to start somewhere.

But being a 'nutter' isn't the only way that young drivers get into trouble, so the 'risk and responsibility education' thing should hit a broad slice including nutters and others.

Trying to create 'nutter rehab' would be a very interesting project...

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It would be interesting and an enormous challenge.

As I said originally, how would we get them to 'want' to attend? Compulsory attendance is probably doomed to failure.

Somehow, we need to get the message out that it is not 'un-cool' to be a good, safe driver.

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What makes a 'nutter' a 'nutter'?

Some people have no brains and no instinct for self preservation. They are likely to be candidates for a Darwin Award and almost impossible to help. These people should be banned from the roads.

For others though, the problem might just be inexperience. When we are young and inexperienced we tend to react to what has just happened in front of us, often too late. As we gain experience we learn to react in advance to what might happen.

I reckon a lot of 'nutters' are only going too fast because it never occurs to them that there might be something that they could do to prevent an accident. That is something which can be taught.



Was it ever cool to crash your pride and joy? I could barely afford to run my first car let alone crash it.

Well, quite possibly - yes!

Aren't ASBOs 'cool'.

The point is, to drive 'safely' is perhaps perceived as belonging to the pipe & cardi brigade. Seriously un-cool!

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Yep. To many people everything they do has to be a laugh, nothing should be taken seriously.
Drive safely? Loosen up you old gits (they would say).

I really hope you're wrong. If you are right then a blunt instrument like a speed camera is the ONLY thing that is going to make any difference because education is pointless. The Police cannot be present all the time to keep order.

Sadly, I don't think we are.

Thankfully, there are degrees of this attitude.
I spend quite a bit of my spare time trying to recruit people to join the IAM (motorcycles), and this attitude is quite evident. Many see bikes as fun (absolutely true!) but mistakenly believe that advanced training will remove that fun element. The real truth is they will have more fun, and be safer. Difficult to convince some people though.

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Im rather of the opinion that the kind of nutter (wrong term really) we are all thinking about is just a more radical version of some of the more careless drivers we all know and love..
The kind of idiot that thinks its cool to not wear a seat belt while chinning the dash while cocked over at an odd angle and a cripple grip on the wheel, yapping on the phone.
Same ilk different level of idiocy.
Its a pure attitude problem.
Theyre not taking the control of their driving seriously, and the parents who allow their kids out to play in a road, arent taking responsibility for their actions, in my opinion theyre worse offenders than any speeding driver.
Thats the crux i feel.
Roads are a transport system not a play area.
In gear nailed it in one when he suggested alternative areas set up for kids, but at the end of the day parents are the responsible party for their own kids safety whatever the realities of a lack of play area. Its inexcusable to shunt the blame onto someone else just because youre not adult enough (directed at irresponsible parents) to be looking out for your kids welfare.

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Try to get the parents together , most County councils have schemes about helping teenagers to help them selves and get play areas set up - something like Multi Use Games Areas (MUGA) ----CC have grant facilities - just needa a touch of local involvement

Hi Deltaf!



Sometimes I agree with you.. sometimes I don't //sometimes ;; er ./. I cannot and sometimes I nod and think .. yep .. this guy is safe enough .. but (we may have had er .. a little word .. but perhaps warranting - cough - ahem - cough some discretion

The A in Lancs COASTY version double to ATTITUDE .. and in Durham we double the C to COURTESY AND CONSIERATION - but we talk really the same language here

It is a case of trying to make people take their road usage serioously . Even in the days of the horse and carriage .. roads were not play areas and people met untimely ends beneath the hoof and wheels .. and we should all be intelligent enough to know and recognise dangers by now.

Yes .. we all know some road users are a little more vulnerable .. but common sense does dictate not placing oneself in serious danger and taking steps as necessary to avoid [i] even if in right of way .. nothing worse than an epitaph of "he dies knowing he was in the right .. but - he was stubborn/pedantic and pious - and not applying his common sense there"

I think I am tryuing to say "two wrongs do not make things right" and better to surrender a right than die for the right to insist on that right"


My parents never allowed me to play out on the road and railways - and I have never allowed my own to play on the roads. I admit to being lucky in that there are parks and playing fields near us though.

In the areas where these are not in striking distance.. then I would say that local councils are failing the council tax payers and their kids by failing to provide facilties which are being paid for.

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