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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 13:24 
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From a Pistonheads discussion:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topi ... 373113&p=1 (requires free registration)

Regarding overtakes that go wrong...

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Strawman wrote:
... I would continue to overtake if I thought I could make it, because you don't know how the driver of the car you were trying to pass will react, they might anticipate a problem and brake to allow you to move left, if you both brake then the danger doesn't go away.


Yeah, this is nasty. The next thing that happens is that both you and the overtakee see the problem and start accelerating again and the problem STILL doesn't go away.

It's the overtakee that 'controls' such problems, and interestingly, since the overtakee is travelling more slowly, and brakes change speed faster than engines, the fastest escape from the crisis is usually the overtakee braking.

Accordingly when I'm being overtaken I like to try and make it clear that I'm giving way to the overtaker. Depending on the situation I might give a chink left, an indicator flash, a brake light flash or a definite lift-off. If his overtake goes pear-shaped I'll slam on and hope that he's taken the hint that I have given priority.

I figure I'm going to slam on anyway because I don't want to be hammering into the fallout of his accident, so I might as well give some indication of my 'disaster strategy' when and if possible.

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I agree, an overtakee should never accelerate. Even if they would be accelerating anyway (perhaps at the NSL boundary coming out of a village, for example) to continue to do so when someone is passing is tantamount to an attempt on their life, effectively forcing them into oncoming traffic. Of course the overtake may be ill-advised, but to all safely co-exist on the roads we sometimes have to make allowances for others' mistakes. Easing off is not going to disadvantage the overtakee by more than maybe a second or two, and yielding in the situation, even if the overtaker is in the wrong, makes everyone safer.


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Ona slightly different subject I had a really weird experience on the way home from work yesterday.

I was travelling along at about 75 in L1 approaching J5 of the M54 with a large van behind me, just about obeying the 2 second rule. Coming up in L2 I could see a sliver vectra with just the hint of a black vehicle very, very, very close behind it. The two were playing silly buggers :roll:
To convey the gist of the event, the black BMW wanted to leave at J5 but had pissed off the driver of the Vectra who was holding him back. The Beemer was determined to go as far in L2 as he could and the Vectra driver effectively used my car as a blocker (as his rear end was aligned with my front end he matched my speed exactly). So I had the bloody Vectra a few feet ahead and to the right and a BMW right alongside with a van behind me.
I eased off a bit to see what would happen (not enough room created) and then accelerated (slowly, my Mondeo doesn't do that sort of thing with gusto) and finally the BMW slid behind me and off at the junction with a couple of yards to spare.
No chance to consider taking numbers and reporting them to the cops...bloody idiots!


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