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Afternoon to all.

My first post here.

If you go over to Traveltax.org, and Mg-rover.org you will see I'm a bit of forum addict.

My question is this.



How mental the level of speed cameras in Glossop is.

I saw a load of the Truvelo and Gatso type, all painted in yellow.

no trouble those.

but what where those small green ones on top of the green poles.

Similar looking a red light camera, but not quite the same, but not on any sets of lights, or near a junction

they were much smaller than a Gatso or Tuvelo, what are they? I treated them as speed camera, but are they?

Potentially TrafficMaster monitoring sites?

Traffic master are those little blues ones? I've seen those, these didn't look anything like them.

looked almost the same as a red light camera, but they were not on any trafficlights.

Looked very similar to this, but not quite.

They used to be blue, now green (probably to help look more natural)


More than likely if they look like:

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Unless it was a Redspeed?:

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looks like this


but info says that "They can also be used as Red Light Cameras"

http://www.snooperuk.com/enigma/index.html

these where not any junctions.

EDIT, oops, misreading, can be used as both a speed cam, and red light cam.

These may well be the "Watchman" cameras that have been widely installed around Tameside (although not in Glossop itself, which is in Derbyshire).

They are not type-approved, and cannot be used for prosecution, although apparently they have been used for sending out threatening letters to registered keepers.

There are several on the A57 between Glossop and the eastern end of the M67.

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Plenty of those green ones on the way into Glossop now, counted 4 of them.

but they all before you get near the centre and the real speed cameras.

Been looking a the county border, looks like they are on the Tameside side of it, but if its your first time there you could say they are in Glossop.

sneeky buggers.

The green ones I'm pretty sure are only for the speed activated signs which accompany them.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q ... 2&t=k&om=1

There are plenty of Truvelos, but they've also painted GATSO lines on the roads to trick people into slowing before and after the camera.

Its not as bad as the A628 though, they've got bloody SPECS cameras up there in just about the only location available on the entire road where you could feasibly overtake the lorries that use it. Before the cameras it was easy to get past them, now you've got no chance as everybody is doing 59.9mph in the SPECS zones

Thats the road! there's two on it.

there another further down after you turn right, it on the outside of the curve about 400 yards down,.

and there another just as you come off the M67 just after a fuel garage.

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All followed immediately by a lit display that tells you to slow down.

They've been there for ages.

One 'less negative' aspect of SPECS is that if you are stuck behind a lorry at 50mph for some distance, you have some leeway in your average in order to overtake.

I happen to think that overtaking in a single carriageway with the speed limit as a priority is one of the most dangerous moves possible. Creeping past a lorry with a maximum of a mere 10mph speed differential places you in danger for far longer than necessary, and obviates any chance for following drivers to also overtake; it could even leave a following driver facing oncoming traffic alongside the lorry in certain circumstances! The priority has to be safety, minimising exposure to danger and observing the road ahead, not creeping past whilst fixated on the speedo.

For all the trolls' assertions that gatsos/truvelos only require a momentary glance at the speedo, one of the things SPECS does very well is focus a disproportionate degree of driver attention on the speedo, throughout the monitored section of road.

It's not quote that bad, but in other ways it's worse

The SPECS cameras are on the hills of that road, where the road is 2-lanes uphill and 1 downhill, but still a 60 limit. You can get maybe one or two cars past of the lead car decides to do an indicated 60 on their overtake, you then end up with 3 more cars stranded alongside the lorry approaching a blind crest which is also the point where the lane they are in turns into a hatched area and then changes direction.

You have to overtake on the single carriageway bits now. One day someone is going to overtake the lorry, pull back into L1 and drop to 30mph to get their average down. Whilst this will let more cars past I'm sure the lorry driver will not be pleased.