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Basically I just enjoy conducting a vehicle along a road, even if it's a minibus or whatever.

I'm into advanced driving, so I monitor each braking phase and gearchange.

I am also interested in roads, so I look out for signs and markings. And Gatsos

Obviously I strongly dislike sitting in traffic jams, but apart from that I find all driving very stimulating.

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Perhaps the difference being that with the first four examples, YOU are the only victim of your life-threatening bad habits. Did you ever consider that laws are there to protect others? After all, nobody really cares what you do to yourself, but involve an innocent party? That's a whole different ball game.

What I love about driving is the sense of freedom and also Motorway driving. I know it takes extra concentration, but that feeling of speeding at 70mph is really enjoyable.

Last summer I drove on the M6 and the A66 through Cumbria. The A66 is a great road (except for the twisty bits in around Bassenthwaite).

Don't let the anti-car Nazis get the better of you [/quote]

Yeah, cos we bikers kill loads of people, unlike tossers in lorries, or stolen cars, or police cars.

Its all a jealousy thing, we can navigate the traffic jams, and leave the highest performance cars eating dust. None of which really fits with the do gooder, safety culture we seem to have adopted.

Can you please describe the "life-threatening bad habits" that Julesm is engaged in? I see no examples of anything "life-threatening" in any of his posts, please enlighten me as to how you manage to come to this conclusion.

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Ross

Yes I'm a hoon, but only on the track!!!!

Read Julesm's post carefully - HE described the following habits:

We can drink ourselves to death
We can smoke ourselves to death
We can eat ourselves to death
We can attempt suicide
All legaly

They all sound pretty life-threatening to me

In general if a biker make a mistake or ignores safety he kills himself..

So what is your point..realy!

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Pillion for starters. Next.

Helmet laws
Seat belt laws
etc etc
Don't think you have realy thought this through have you...





Don't carry one...next!

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Er, I dont remember doing any such thing.
Keep up.

Most bikers, myself included, ride EXTRA carefully whe carrying a pillion, for the simple reason its not only your life at risk. I dont for instance get my knee down very often with the wife on the back

At all times I use skill and judgement to navigate the queens highway without incident, you just give the others tossers a lot more room to make their inevitable mistakes when carrying a pillion. The same tossers who will rarely get caught for speeding, non no, they are WAY to safe for that!

What utter crap. Typical anti car/bike drivel.

So laws are only there to safe gaurd wayward pedestrians and non road tax paying cyclists, and the drivers and riders can go F*** emselves!

Perhaps if as much time was spent educating peds of the dangers of the road then less of them would get hurt.
I would imagine getting hit by a bus doing 30mph is still gonna hurt a bit, so surely the best thing to do is get the peds to stay on the bloody paths, instead of taxing road users for going over a number on a disk! You might save more lives that way. Youll make less money, but save more lives.

I'm a cyclist and I pay road tax (VED). Go figure.

Laws should be in the interests of all road users, surely? I have never once implied that laws should protect only peds and cyclists. Your words not mine.

Perhaps less peds would get hurt if motorists were educated on the implications of their driving. (Look how many non-wayward peds were killed or injured on the pavements last year for example.) Works both ways.

Sorry...what do you mean by "educated"...

Perhaps less peds would get hurt if they were educated on the implecations of their actions.

How many Peds still use the "green cross code" these days.

Think First - Find the safest place to cross then stop.
Stop - Stand on the pavement near the kerb.
Use Your Eyes and Ears - Look all around for traffic, and listen.
Wait Until it's Safe to Cross - If traffic is coming, let it pass.
Look and Listen - When it's safe, walk straight across the road.
Arrive Alive - Keep looking and listening for traffic while you cross.

How many do you see crossing within 50 yds of a pelican or zebra crossing...

Or do you subscribe to the "motorist is always wrong" philosophy.

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Going back to the original question:-



I think you've pretty much covered it as far as I'm concerned, Paul. The sensation of being in control is very much an enjoyable one, especially when controlling something you can sense physically (cornering, acceleration, braking) as well as that control being useful to get you to a destination. I also know what you mean about a changing scene - I used to find car journeys very boring, but now I actually look at what we're going past, or even just watch the other traffic on the road, and can avoid becoming bored.

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-mike[F]
Caught in the rush of the crowd, lost in a wall of sound..

How many of the pedestrians killed on the pavement were the victims of drunk and/or uninsured drivers? Whenever you read a report of a crash of this type, it always seems to be the fault of someone who isn't driving legally in the first place.

Responsible, licensed, insured drivers don't as a rule do that kind of thing.

Also we need to emphasise the point that all road users carry responsibility both for their own safety and that of others.

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Any views expressed in this post are personal opinions and may not represent the views of Safe Speed

Er, that was the comment I was responding to (from Jules)


I don't know. How many?
Many. I also see many crossing where there is no pedestrian crossing in sight. You can't always cross where there is a crossing. WHat are you saying? Use a crossing or be it at your peril?


No. I am not familiar with that philosophy. Amongst other things, I am a motorist. I suspect we share the same views on a great many road safety issues and current practices.

I totally agree

How about use a crossing if it's there, and use the green cross code if there isn't? (That said, when I'm pedestrianing I tend to use the gcc at crossings if the traffic is heavy, especially zebras.) How about THINK! ads that remind us all (since we're all pedestrians too) that the first 33 rules in the Highway Code are for pedestrians?

It's not just about drivers taking responsibility for the safety of other road users, which of course they absolutely should. It's also about taking responsibility as individuals for our personal safety, which is something that gets forgotten far too often IMO. Especially around Wimbledon station in the rush hour.

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Ummm, I pretty much agree with Paul's comments on why he likes like driving.....um that's it realy

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