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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 14:26 
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Majority of UK's CCTV cameras 'are illegal'
By Tim Hall
Last Updated: 1:18pm BST 31/05/2007

The vast majority of Britain's CCTV cameras are operating illegally or in breach of privacy guidelines, a new watchdog has warned.

Up to 90 per cent of surveillance cameras may be breaching the Information Commissioner's code of practice laid down to stop cameras being used inappropriately.

Even more seriously, a large proportion of the UK's 14.2 million cameras breach the Data Protection Act and so are illegal, the watchdog CameraWatch warned.

The illegality of many cameras will lead to future clashes in court and possible acquittals of suspects, predicted the organisation's chairman Gordon Ferrie.

Mr Ferrie, a former policeman, said: "Our research shows that up to 90 per cent of CCTV installations fail to comply with the Information Commissioner's code of practice, and that many installations are operated illegally.

"That has profound implications for the reputation of the CCTV and camera surveillance industry and all concerned with it."

Mr Ferrie added that CameraWatch, a non-profit making independent body, is not against CCTV as a crime-fighting tool, and said that surveillance pictures are as useful to police as DNA forensic evidence.

"There is nothing better than actually seeing someone commit the crime," he said. "All we are asking is that the images that are taken are compliant with the Data Protection Act."

Under the code of practice and according to the Data Protection Act, CCTV cameras must be visible with clear signs. In addition, camera operators have an obligation to stop images of individuals being seen by third parties.

Mr Ferrie said that operators most commonly breach these rules by not keeping recorded tapes secure, meaning they could potentially be stolen.

The rise of digital cameras opens up further problems because the images can easily be shared as digital files rather than remaining on a closed loop.

Defence counsels in court could theoretically question the legality of CCTV pictures in order to have the evidence dismissed or the case thrown out.

The issue has not yet been tested in court, but one such case could set a precedent throwing into doubt the whole surveillance network.

However, the Information Commissioner's Office today denied that CCTV rules are being broken on a large scale.

Ken Macdonald, Assistant Information Commissioner for Scotland, said: "We welcome the initiative by CameraWatch to promote compliance with the Data Protection Act.

"We are not aware of any evidence that supports the suggestion that 90 per cent of CCTV cameras are not complying with the ICO Code of Practice. We don't believe there is any such evidence.

"Where we receive complaints that CCTV is being used in breach of the Data Protection Act we will investigate. We have a range of enforcement powers at our disposal."

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http://www.crimereduction.gov.uk/cctv/cctv13.htm

In any case....the uk is considering opting-out of the european human rights laws.

The data protection acts don't apply to local authorities if the camera "is not used to identify an individual"


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so whats the point of having them then?


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j.prescott wrote:
so whats the point of having them then?


Result of a case brought by the information commissioner, formerly data protection commissioner. Doesn't mean that they cannot identify an individual, just that they are not put there to JUST identify AN individual. Most council cctv is not signed as it should be. Also, if (for instance) a couple were filmed by an unsigned and covert CCTV in the sexual act, then it would be nigh-on impossible to prosecute.....well, even if the operators had not already sold the vidisc to everyone ! Oh, and a good wander through the COVERT camera section may make you think !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Even more seriously, a large proportion of the UK's 14.2 million cameras breach the Data Protection Act and so are illegal, the watchdog CameraWatch warned.


14.2 million? Previous Telegraph articles have quoted 4.2 million, or "nearly five million", and I think that figure is well overestimated!


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14.2 million? Previous Telegraph articles have quoted 4.2 million, or "nearly five million", and I think that figure is well overestimated!


I had heard there is one camera for every 14 head of population.

How often do we see revelations like this in the press then NOTHING happens. The may indead be illegal...but then when has it ever stopped this government. It just makes me more pissed off about living in this f*cked-up country.

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j.prescott wrote:
so whats the point of having them then?

Deterrent - but i suspect the rise in the hood fashion co-incided with the rise in the number of CCTV posts, as also seen in the change in hairstyles in certain youths before a visit to the magistrates court- ( and not for presentation purposes either)

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