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Absolutely correct. I suggest when you say "conditions permit me to make progress", you really mean "most of the time, I exceed the speed limit by some margin".



Take professional motorsport (F1, MotoGP, BSB, whatever) where all the vehicles pretty much have the same top speed (minus the obvious teams who are well off the pace), it is down to sheer rider quality and machine set up that makes the difference, so your comment is pretty much nonsense.

I remember the days of Mk1 Escort racing, where it was almost like a destruction derby with everyone fighting for position!

So you stop them exceeding the local limit. Terrific. Now explain how you go about stopping them drag-racing each other up to the limit as the lights go green (I'll assume you've already installed scams at every set of lights to stop them hitting the loud pedal on red-amber as many of them do at present), cornering at the limit as their tyres screech and scrabble for grip, driving down narrow residential roads at the ISA-imposed limit which is still too high to be genuinely safe at certain times of the day, driving down residential streets in the middle of the night in 1st gear revving the nuts off the engine and giving their bean-can exhaust/echo-chamber combo a good workout, pulling into the path of other road users forcing them to jump on the brakes, cutting corners, driving on the wrong side of the road, the wrong way around roundabouts, overtaking when there really isn't room to do so (especially now you've now taken away their option to floor it to complete the move before the oncoming traffic gets too close for comfort)... you know, all the stuff that actually does make life hell for other road users and residents, but which CAN NEVER AND WILL NEVER be prevented by a single-minded focus on cutting speed at the expense of all else.

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Chris

OK, boyo! That was not a threat - I did say that you would have to ask nicely, making it an offer and thank you for recognising my honesty; perhaps you should reconsider your view of honesty in general, which would reveal the fact that all of our posts are honest - we post as we believe.
Your claim that I am not really interested in road safety shows your appalling lack of perception of myself and, indeed, the whole thrust of this website. We have, long ago, dismissed the fallacy of the 'Speed Kills' lobby and have recently been supported by no less than ACPO in their admission that no more than 5% of KSI's on our roads are attributable to excess or inappropriate use of speed.
The main killer now is the Government, whose woeful record of removing Police patrols from our roads, combined with a shroud of 'corporate responsibility' that leaves drivers thinking that any accident they are involved in must be somebody else's fault has lead to the parlous state of affairs on our roads today.
I love my family, I love my car and, generally, I like my fellows. I do not wish to be responsible for their hurt, so I live and drive accordingly.
Your posts are those of someone with a grudge that I do not wish to have any part of, let alone share roadspace with. Thus limiting my 140mph car to 100mph is not a survival trait in my view, thus leaving you where you are best left - alone.

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Licat volare si super tergum aquila volat...

I love your logic. Many of us have pointed out that we currently, legally, drive at speeds over 100mph and you conclude that as a result of this, probably because you wet yourself every time you go over 5mph, that we're not interested in safety on the roads?
Jec, here's a suggestion. Before you utter any more rubbish, why don't you do what your trouserless husband did and go and get yourself some proper advanced training. Once you've discovered what's actually required in order to drive properly come back and let us know all about it.

Do you really think that they will leave it at 100 mph, when the highest limit over here is 70mph.

Maybe it was too subtle, sorry. We already have limited vehicles on our road, and the fact they are limited causes major problems. Do you not notice this when driving on the motorway?

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Getting back to this original post, what is the basis of this assertion? Improved safety or what?

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Malcolm W.
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I was going to edit my previous post but I made so many changes that I thought it best to start over


Some things wrong with this (in racing environments):
1) F1 is boring enough already (dons flameproof jacket)
2) Limiting top speeds will eliminate what's left of overtaking (no tactical slipstreaming)
3) Speed limiting will be subject regulation and overblown scrutiny (detracting from the enjoyment)
4) The fact is that there is absolutely no call for speed limited racing, so how can you deem it to be more competitive and enjoyable? Perhaps this shows just how out of touch you really are?

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gosh.. you lot are so easy to wind up

I thought this forum was supposed to be about constructive discussion rather than trolling.

Some of us may have wrongly believed he was actually making a serious point.

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"Show me someone who says that they have never exceeded a speed limit, and I'll show you a liar, or a menace." (Austin Williams - Director, Transport Research Group)

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