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It appears payphones are included. So it is illegal to smoke within 3 metres of a payphone?

I saw enough shops today not displaying the ugly signs. (and some of the ones which were might have been too small)
How long until the fining starts?

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Andrew.

Not very long before the fining.. The local authority tax collectors are itching to get out there

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"Are you sh**ing me?"
"John Spartan, you are fined one credit for a violation of the verbal morality statute."

Thats when we have to walk around with numbers on our backs so they can enforce with CCTV

It won't be long before they have "face" recognition in the same what they have ANPR.

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Speed camera policy Kills

Some local residents have started complaining about the noise caused by loads of smokers standing outside a pub, having a pint... heh heh...

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Pecunia Prius Equitas et Salus

Just heard a good one. Apparently the law applies to company cars as well. No surprises there.

But the loop hole is convertibles. Smoking in a convertible company car with the roof down is not an offence if it is in an open space.............

They are forecasting an increase in convertible car sales as a result.

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Speed camera policy Kills

Anyone been nicked yet?

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Pecunia Prius Equitas et Salus

Keep it in the home instead?

Stop the madness. I still approve of the ban in enclosed places where people work, but they just don't know when to stop.

I predict that in the near future (Less than 12 months) we will see our first "Child abuse" prosceution of smoking parants whose child is admitted to hospital with breathing difficulties.

Resperiritory illness in the children of smokers will in due course be treated in the same way as mysterious bruses and broken bones!

You have been warned!

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"The road to a police state is paved with public safety legislation"

Well, I think if there's two issues there. If the child has a demonstrable respiratory illness, and there is evidence they are breathing large amounts of smoke regularly, then in my opinion that actually would be negligent care and the parents should at the very least be told to stop smoking around them. Wouldn't it be even more perverse to specifically single out smoking as not being abuse, if it is demonstrably causing harm?

On the other hand if we are talking about an occasional waft of smoke in a park, and there is no clear evidence of harm, then that is very different. I think it's important to keep the two things separate.

Facial Recognition

I have noticed that the NHS have sent our company a 14 A4 page booklet all about this smoke-free thing. It says what signs you require. It even has an example of one, which isn't large enough to be legal. But even though a few of the pages are blank on one side they haven't included any signs to cut out and use.

Oh there was an A4 covering letter and a 4 timers larger than A4 poster too.

Except for the covering letter it must have been 100GSM paper, maybe a little heavier.

Plus the envelope plus postage I wonder how much this cost us all.

Edit: The booklet is also online here. It's the "'Everything you need' guidance".

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Andrew.

Oh, I agree. There is actually a good case for smoking in front of young children to be considererd "Abuse" no less than plying them with Gin (I believe somewhere around 80% of children under 3 admitted to hospital with breathing difficulties are the children of smokers) My point is that, untill now, nobody has been prepared to make an issue out of children exposed to smoke by their parents in their own homes.

With the public ban in force the "Authorities" will now be much more willing to do so.

As for the "Occasional waft of smoke in the park" when I was 8 I burned one of my feet quite badly at an open air swimming pool on a tab end discarded by some selfish git. So it isnt just an issue of nasty smells

Having said all that (as you will appreciate by my "Sig") I am "Discomforted" by the way in which this legislation has been introduced as well as its potential scope. I am sure that there would have been much fairer ways of implimenting a policy whereby *I* as a non-smoker can go about my life un-exposed to smoke without the apparent relentless persecution of those who wish to smoke.

I (along with many others, I am sure) strongly suspect that this is largly about controll freakery dressed up as public safety!

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"The road to a police state is paved with public safety legislation"

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"The road to a police state is paved with public safety legislation"

Don't forget added to the anti littering laws ( and that fag end is litter ) and decriminalising of parking, a nice little earner for ( I think ) our local authorities.

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

Don't forget the guy who Poole council accused of "dripping his cigarette". They so do hate us.

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Andrew.

That IS how Hitler started! (The fine was "One Mark" (a huge sum and on the spot too!) Berlin was *very* tidy! My Mum, as a little girl, was warned about this in 1939 when she visited Germany with my Grandfather)

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"The road to a police state is paved with public safety legislation"

Was this Officer Crabtree , by any chance ??

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

Hmmnnn!

Why is it so hard for the bloke to use his ash tray?

(Hint. Recepticle for putting unwanted ash in!)

Though it is not something I have experianced myself it must be pretty unpleasent for a pedestrian/cyclist/biker to get a facefull of ash and sparks (or possibly even a burning tab end) in the face because some selfish git doesnt want to dirty up his car!

As I have said before, I am not against people smoking! It is the selfish (even irresponsible! Remember Kings Cross?!) behavior of *some* smokers that has precipitated all this nannying!

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"The road to a police state is paved with public safety legislation"

Like MSM, think -M(irror)( to make sure no convertables/bikes of both type behind, or pedestrians on one way street) flick fag ( dropping it chances are it will blow back in)

Ash trays - yet to see them on public streets - chances are we'll see a few bin fires before the bins are removed to prevent terrorist action.

(BTW - stopped some years ago , before i get ash etc thrown at me, so i can see both sides)

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on