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If its a dual carriageway NSL then the speed limit for HGVs is 50mph.

Edited to remove unnecessary venom.

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Science won over religion when they started installing lightning rods on churches.

Good point. I forgot that.

Didn't see the venom

Good - I'm having a bad day

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Science won over religion when they started installing lightning rods on churches.

It is but the application of the law is not 100% clear.


In the worst case it can be classed as dangerous driving (i know someone who got a ban for this)

According to the highway code overtaking on the near side is only alowed in the case of one way streets.

Personaly I have no problem with it. It works well in the US and helps keep all lanes of traffic moving at optimum speed.

It realy pisse sme off when lane 2 and 3 are crawling along and there is no one in lane 1.....

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Speed camera policy Kills

Thats not a 'must not' though is it, and theres no reference to law attached?



I dunno, thats a perfect opportunity to justifiably make progress in L1. I often take to L1 in jams, since many motorists seem reluctant to use it, and the traffic there does not bunch up in the same way, so it makes constant steady progress.

I also used to say that you could overtake on the nearside if the vehicle was signalling to turn right.

I have always argued that positioning themselves in L2 of a 2 lane DC when L1 is clear is signalling an intention to turn right...


But over there, the trucks are not limited to such low speeds

Last time I had one of those... Nope, don't even go there.

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Paul Smith
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I suspect your most recent bad day makes today look like a picnic! How you doin' anyway?

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Science won over religion when they started installing lightning rods on churches.

I feel great. Really, just great.

I'm taking it very easy on Doctor's orders (and certainly not because I feel like taking it easy). But there may be trouble ahead. They are talking about a triple bypass. <gulp>

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Paul Smith
Our scrap speed cameras petition got over 28,000 sigs
The Safe Speed campaign demands a return to intelligent road safety

Holy Moley! Fingers crossed then...

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Science won over religion when they started installing lightning rods on churches.

Exactly. A "should not" in the highway code means "there is no legal reason not to do this".

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Andrew.

I was referring to the comment about how driving a truck you get to see all the different kinds of idiocy that car drivers partake in.

You don't need to be in a truck for that. Just do long distance in any vehicle.

You'd be surprised...

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Science won over religion when they started installing lightning rods on churches.

Is it because "lorries are slow"?

(You only make that mistake once driving in Florida... )

I blame speed limiters. But I might be biased...

I saw a lorry over here the other day doing about 70! I was having a hard time catching up... In fact I didn't manage it!

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Andrew.

Pretty much.
That and people don't realise how long it takes to stop or how little you can see either.

If I took a tally of how many times a day I have to take avoiding action or get cut up by cars you'd be shocked. You learn to anticipate it before they even get alongside 90% of the time but there's always times when people do such stupid things that it beggars belief. For example the woman who drove the wrong way up the sliproad of m6 j14 to rejoin the m6 (from HERE to HERE) before joining the motorway in 1st gear at 5mph forcing me to undertake her on the hard shoulder to avoid killing either her or the car overtaking me for example-or the guy in the motorhome who pulled straight onto the m4 from the hard shoulder at 2mph 50 yards in front of me while I had a truck alongside...

I overtake more cars than trucks while I'm on the motorway doing 54mph too-and it usually takes longer to overtake them because they are dithering between 52 and 55mph.

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Smokebelching,CO2 making,child murdering planet raping,granny mugging,politically incorrect globally warming (or is it climate changing now it's getting colder?)thug.
That's what the government want you to believe of me. If they get back in I'm emigrating.

I presume that a road-legal lorry is considered sufficiently safe to drive (visibility, braking etc.) under normal cirumstances by the authorities that the risks of accidents are within officially acceptable limits.

I accept that the demands on lorry drivers are great, and that there will be incidents and maneuvres where extra skill is required. Luckily they are professionally qualified, and society is grateful for their contribution to keeping road transport functioning with relatively few accidents.

However appropriate care needs to be exercised by all road users, and nobody wants to bring back the man with the red flag... do they?

Balance is required, not "lowest commin denominator" attitudes.

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p.s. I am still absolutely floored by Paul's death. May 2008 be the greatest ever for SafeSpeed. His spirit lives on.

Is not worded as "you must not" so it's advisory, not law.

How many lane changes would be considered "weaving" anyway? Is even one, one too many? Of course the danger of changing lanes is the possibility of a motorbike (or even pushbike) passing between the lanes so obviously you have to look out for them, but usually the lane changes are done at a time when you are moving and you're manouevring around that annoying driver who decides it's good policy to leave the gap of 4 cars in front of him.

Let's see 4 cars, assuming a generaous 5m per car is 20m, or about 60 feet. At motorway speeds that is nowhere near enough a gap to stop if the car ahead hits something solid.

So you are a tailgater who gets annoyed when the car you are following refueses to tailgate too. Perhaps he is a sensible driver, who is allowing extra braking distance BECAUSE you are tailgating him. One day that might just save your life!

I'm not sure that's what Earl Purple meant. I think he probably meant a gap sufficiently large for four adequately spaced vehicles (as you say, a 20m gap is far too small at motorway speeds). Also, I think you're making a big leap to assume tailgating behaviour.

Nevertheless, I see no reason to become annoyed because the car in front chooses to leave a larger rather than smaller gap - if he is keeping pace with the vehicle ahead of him. Even if he isn't, getting annoyed will hardly help matters.

I was actually referring to slow-moving traffic according to the highway code where left-side overtaking is permitted but they told you not to weave.