Stephen wrote:
Thatsnews,what are you on about national security clearance and not recognising passes. In 18yrs of doing my job I have come across them all and the ones that are genuine as has been said dont get to court, the pisstakers well thats where they go straight to court with a stearn word in there ear about pervert the course of justice.
If someone is stopped by me and they give me a reason orr explain who they are ie Special Branch
Surveillance Units
Drug Squad
Customs
SAS etc etc then details are taken and they are sent on there way and checks are made and well, you know what will happen if they are found out to be lying.
So,If you are telling me that when someone shows a pass are you expecting us to believe that these passes show the level of immunity that they hold, even when a car on diplomatic plates are stopped, checks are made to see if the driver is the person assignes to the plates and not the car valeter or chaueffeur.
So, if this OP has got the immunity from prosecution that you suggest then don't you think that he would have played his ace card before now, cause i do, but it's obvious that he has not, thats my opinion but I stand to be corrected.
Stephen
Stephen let's take this back a step, shall we?
It has been made clear that the police officer ignored the pass. He did not check on it, so might have been unaware of what it was. Just because you have 18 years experience and have stopped drug squad officers, Customs, Special Branch, surveillance units, SAS, etc, etc., does not mean that every officer will have had the same experiences as yourself in stopping all these various secret squirrel personnel.
(Especially someone with -say- only 4 or 5 years in the force.)
Where did I say that he had immunity from prosecution? I didn't. Did I?
I merely suggested that if he HAD been involved in work related to his high security clearance job and this was WHY he was travelling at speed, that this might be an avenue worth exploring as a defence.
Might I suggest that rather than the driver who was taking the piss, it might well have been the constable at the roadside who was taking the piss, who seemed unaware what the high security pass actually was?
As he did not radio for instructions, it seems that a lowly PC (with ZERO security clearance) decided to set himself up as an arbiter of what counted as security clearance, with no reference to anyone else.
How many times would you expect the average PC to see one of the following non-police ID cards? Customs, SAS, SIS, SAS, SBS or MOD?
As I pointed out I do know of one instance when a PC got arsy with someone carrying one of the above cards. (I do not think he realised the significance of what he'd been shown.) Needless to say, words (very harsh words) were said...