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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 17:33 
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As some of you may know, I have been in contact with the West Yorkshire Casualty Reduction Partnership (WYCRP) over the last several months trying to get information from them with respect to camera site accident figures and data with respect to their claims (see below), essentially asking the following questions:

    What is their views on Vehicle Activated Signs (VAS) and TRL548 report.
    The questions and results from the survey relating to Claim 1 (see below)
    The accident statistics used to determine each new and existing camera site.

Philip Gwynne's response about VAS:
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Vehicle Activated Signs are not part of the Casualty Reduction Partnership's "tool kit". Speed control safety cameras are.


Philip Gwynne's response about camera site data:
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The interpretation you chose to give my point 2 is entirely without substance. You originally asked (March 10) for "the accident statistics for ALL camera sites broken down into Fatal, Seriously Injured etc by year per cameras site".

You were told - truthfully - that this information does not yet exist for all camera sites but is currently being researched and collated. However, information IS freely available on KSIs and PICs on all camera-ed lengths of road in the 3 years prior to installation of cameras.


Point 2 referenced above (from an earlier e-mail):
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2. Casualty statistics for all camera sites broken down into fatal,
seriously injured etc by year by camera is currently being researched and collated.


So far as you probably will not be surprised to learn the WYCRP will not release their accident figures, but I will continue to pursue this. They have produced the following claims (taken from WYCRP web site) which I strongly believe needs scrutiny.

I will use this Forum Topic to update the questions and responses to WYCRP.


West Yorkshire Casualty Reduction Partnership Claims.

Claim 1: 22/03/04 - MORE THAN 90% OF WEST YORKS FOLK SUPPORT “SPEED CAMERAS”
    Survey carried out that shows over 90% West Yorkshire people want speed cameras.
Claim 2: 01/04/04 - ROAD CASUALTIES AT LOWEST EVER LEVEL!
    Claims that 30% reduction of fatalities since 2002.


These claims can be found: http://www.safetycameraswestyorkshire.co.uk/pressr.asp


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 23:42 
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Try suggesting that [whoever authority] comply with the Freedom of Information act

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Yes I will - however, I don't think they have to comply to the FoI until next year.


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The govt have ordered all partnerships to publish accident data for all their sites by October this year. Quite how detailed the data will be is another question, it will probably be something along the lines of "accidents the year before the camera" and "accidents the year after", not taking averages into account at all.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 12:23 
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Chris, Sue,

It has been several weeks now since I wrote to you about my request for information from WYCPR and as yet I have not received this information. I have noticed that they are continuing to put forward unsubstantiated claims in press releases and install more speed cameras even though conflicting research is showing that these devices do not reduce accidents.

In the light of the recent immigration and asylum issues I would suggest that Camera Partnerships are another area that are equally ‘subjects of abuse’ and direct you to the following reports:

Speed cameras sited away from blackspots
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0, ... 62,00.html

Where the money really goes.
http://www.abd.org.uk/local/essex.htm

Speed Camera Placement
http://www.safespeed.org.uk/rules.html

I think it is in everyone’s interest to have access to the underlying facts behind any of the figures and claims published, if just for the sake of public confidence. It is not enough to simply publish figures of ‘cherry picked’ half truths and expect people to accept what they are being told – it is the behind the scenes research data along with the nature of how this data was collated and calculated and by who, that is of greater importance when determining the quality of the information being presented.

I reiterate my request for you to obtain on my behalf the information previously asked for and I look forward to hearing from you.

Regards,

Andy.



Recent letter to my MP's


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All,

The latest from my MP's in response to my e-mail requesting information from WYCRP.

Letter from my Labour MP
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Dear Andy

Thank you for your e-mail of 7th April.

You will recall that on the 17th March Mr Gwynne informed you that the information you require would be available "within weeks rather than months". I have taken this to mean perhaps five or six weeks rather than three.

However, I have written to remind him that we require the information as soon as it becomes available.

Yours sincerely

p.p. Christine McCafferty MP


E-mail from my Conservative spokes person
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-----Original Message-----
From: Calder Valley [mailto:caldervalley@Tory.org]
Sent: 20 April 2004 10:00
To: Andy L
Subject: Fw: Fw: West Yorkshire Casualty Reduction Partnership (WYCRP)


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sue Robson-Catling" <stage@dramaworkshops.demon.co.uk>
To: "Calder Valley" <caldervalley@Tory.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: West Yorkshire Casualty Reduction Partnership (WYCRP)


Kay
Please forward the following:

Andy
Please find below the latest release on speed cameras from the
Conservative Party.
Sue

More speed cameras, more stealth tax
Thousands more speed cameras are set to further blight Britain's roads
under plans by to remove speed bumps and replace them with speed cameras
in residential areas.

The facts:
• Research by Autocar magazine says that 33 per cent more cameras
have been positioned on the UK's fifty safest roads than on the fifty
most dangerous stretches. Just eighteen cameras monitor more than 500
miles of the most hazardous roads.


• In 1996, the last full year of Conservative government, 262,000
speeding tickets were issued after motorists were recorded by cameras.
Last year 2,000,000 drivers received £60 fines and three penalty points
for speeding

Comment: Increasingly speed cameras are not improving safety, merely
raising revenue. With Council taxes already rising, the cost of ripping
up humps and replacing them with speed cameras will only increase this
pressure further. Commenting on these latest plans Damian Green,
Conservative Transport spokesman said, "This is another tax on
suburbia. It is residents who will get fined." An incoming Conservative
government would scrap all speed cameras that have been installed to
raise money rather than save lives.


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