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Has just been the subject of a report on BBC1 news.

Been nicked for speeding, they didn't say what speed he was clocked at.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7069289.stm

Yeah!

We have been discussing it in the Clubhouse this morning because the Daily Mail thought that they had an exclusive on the story.

It's 90mph in a 60mph limit.

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Paul Smith
Our scrap speed cameras petition got over 28,000 sigs
The Safe Speed campaign demands a return to intelligent road safety

The antics of Richard Brunstrom, Chief Constable of North Wales Police.
never cease to amaze me.

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Speed limit sign radio interview. TV Snap Unhappy
“It has never been the rule in this country – I hope it never will be - that suspected criminal offences must automatically be the subject of prosecution” He added that there should be a prosecution: “wherever it appears that the offence or the circumstances of its commission is or are of such a character that a prosecution in respect thereof is required in the public interest”
This approach has been endorsed by Attorney General ever since 1951. CPS Code

Safe Speed issued the following PR at 14:16:

PR557: Med Hughes: Sack the clown!

news: for immediate release

According to reports, Med Hughes, Chief Constable of South Yorkshire has been
caught driving at 90mph in a 60mph speed limit. Mr Hughes is also head of the
Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO) Roads policing committee and an
arch speed camera advocate.

Driving at 90mph in a 60mph speed limit is above the threshold at which the
Magistrates Association recommend a disqualification.

Paul Smith, founder of SafeSpeed.org.uk, said: "The hypocrisy is absolutely
breathtaking. Clearly Mr Hughes thinks that the rules he is so keen to enforce
don't apply to him."

"The critical question is: "Was Mr Hughes causing a danger to the public?".
Given his training and position, I am quite confident that he was not. I
challenge him to admit - here and now - that the speed limit cannot define the
point at which a speed becomes dangerously fast."

"Mr Hughes is clearly a complete hypocrite and I demand his resignation, both
from the ACPO road safety committee and from his office as Chief Constable of
South Yorkshire. He has brought the entire Police service into disrepute. How
can the public have confidence in such a complete buffoon?"

"Sack the clown."

"Mr Hughes should also be given a taste of his own medicine and banned from
driving. No public money should pay for a chauffeur."

<ends>

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Paul Smith
Our scrap speed cameras petition got over 28,000 sigs
The Safe Speed campaign demands a return to intelligent road safety

Now that, my friends, is a REAL PR!!!!!
Well done Paul, you certainly don't hold your punches. Very direct & professional.
Every word a gem of truth too, let's see them react to this one.

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p.s. I am still absolutely floored by Paul's death. May 2008 be the greatest ever for SafeSpeed. His spirit lives on.

Do you think Nick Freeman would take him on as a client?
Could Richard Bently find a signing error. Are the Traffic orders correct?
Was his number plate cloned.
could Mika send him a pace witness statement, or Idris take him through the right to silence argument again...

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Speed limit sign radio interview. TV Snap Unhappy
“It has never been the rule in this country – I hope it never will be - that suspected criminal offences must automatically be the subject of prosecution” He added that there should be a prosecution: “wherever it appears that the offence or the circumstances of its commission is or are of such a character that a prosecution in respect thereof is required in the public interest”
This approach has been endorsed by Attorney General ever since 1951. CPS Code

He should go - plain and simple. It's not even a case of one rule for us and one for them.

As far as I see it, there are a few scenarios:
a) He didn't realise what the speed limit was, 60 mph suggest single carriageway NSL, thus he is seriously incompetent with the law of the road and should be banned, and a retest ordered.
b) He inadvertently let his speed build up, driving without due care, he should be banned.
c) He thought that he could get away with it. He should be banned!

It's not like the vast majority of the public who are recieving NIP's for exceeding the limit by a small margin, this is flagrant abuse of the law!

They'll probably come up with the excuse, he was trying out his new car

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Useless laws weaken necessary laws.

There is no UK mainland speed limit greater than 70. He case allegedly caught doing 90.


Apparently Med was caught twice towards the end of 2004; am I right in thinking speeding points take effect for 3 years? Does anyone know if those points have expired?

I've just heard that he was on holiday at the time so the possibility of the Police exemption is completely out of the window.

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Paul Smith
Our scrap speed cameras petition got over 28,000 sigs
The Safe Speed campaign demands a return to intelligent road safety

Dr L had a view on speeding tickets in Wales on this thread

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Speed limit sign radio interview. TV Snap Unhappy
“It has never been the rule in this country – I hope it never will be - that suspected criminal offences must automatically be the subject of prosecution” He added that there should be a prosecution: “wherever it appears that the offence or the circumstances of its commission is or are of such a character that a prosecution in respect thereof is required in the public interest”
This approach has been endorsed by Attorney General ever since 1951. CPS Code

I don't know - but I need to. Any ideas about finding the details?

I expect SYP are now under a state of seige.

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Paul Smith
Our scrap speed cameras petition got over 28,000 sigs
The Safe Speed campaign demands a return to intelligent road safety

oops

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"Safety" Scamera Partnerships;
Profitting from death and misery since 1993.

Believe nothing- Question everything.

Ill send him a leek...yhakki dar!

Famous Med Hughes quote: "come and have a go if you think youre hard enough".........Oh the shame of it Med, head of acpo hoisted by his own petard.

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"Safety" Scamera Partnerships;
Profitting from death and misery since 1993.

Believe nothing- Question everything.

SYP issued a press release today about speeding drivers can avoid fines
Irony or spin?

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Speed limit sign radio interview. TV Snap Unhappy
“It has never been the rule in this country – I hope it never will be - that suspected criminal offences must automatically be the subject of prosecution” He added that there should be a prosecution: “wherever it appears that the offence or the circumstances of its commission is or are of such a character that a prosecution in respect thereof is required in the public interest”
This approach has been endorsed by Attorney General ever since 1951. CPS Code

The Daily Mail think his previous points date to 2003 and have expired.

The offence was in May.

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Paul Smith
Our scrap speed cameras petition got over 28,000 sigs
The Safe Speed campaign demands a return to intelligent road safety

FoI to the police standards committee, asking how many get caught, which forces and where (Cumbria?) and if known, WHO.

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Time to take responsibility for our actions.. and don't be afraid of speaking out!

The Sun has it: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... 405791.ece

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Paul Smith
Our scrap speed cameras petition got over 28,000 sigs
The Safe Speed campaign demands a return to intelligent road safety

Am I right in thinking that they stay on record, and will be brought to the courts attention for up to 5 years. Since this is a related offence.

For being so far over the limit surely this will be dealt with be a court rather than CoFPN.

I don't think you will get a seat...
the mad mullah will have all his toys fully loaded

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Speed limit sign radio interview. TV Snap Unhappy
“It has never been the rule in this country – I hope it never will be - that suspected criminal offences must automatically be the subject of prosecution” He added that there should be a prosecution: “wherever it appears that the offence or the circumstances of its commission is or are of such a character that a prosecution in respect thereof is required in the public interest”
This approach has been endorsed by Attorney General ever since 1951. CPS Code