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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 18:29 
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Never seen it, so thanks for the tip, might well be worth a detour next time I am over that way!

For those who were wondering, you do get used to the motion, though some people do need desensitising. The iteration of the device that I have seen is basically a swivel chair under a black tent; not very high tech!


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:D You dont mean that do you.. :D

Aurora allegedly seen overflying the North Sea

Many reports of sightings of Aurora... did the US government ever admit the existence of stealth aircraft or that stealth technology even existed ??

Well no not till they had too 8-)


Denied evertything.. but people claimed to have seen the craft we now call the F117 , B2 etc... around Area 51 .

Wouldnt offer to eat my hat just yet :)

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Oh I'm pretty sure the hat is safe :wink:


Aurora........ something similar actually existed on a poster at the Skunkworks named "astra" and was seen by an investigative journalist (nick cook) on a visit there to interview retired engineer Bob Widmer in 1996 regarding exotic propulsion systems.
When he queried what "astra" was, he was ushered out by a guy called Ron Lindeke and could learn no more about it for a few weeks more when Lindeke told cook it was an "airliner" from the 70's...yet it was at the top of the tree for military aircraft. Make of that what you will.

Source:isbn 0712669531 The Hunt for Zero Point by Nick Cook, page 144.

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Any mosquitos still flying? The last one I saw airborne was in about 1965 or so.


Nope, pretty sure there aren't. Not in the UK anyway.
There is however a Bristol Beaufighter JM135 being restored to flying condition at Duxford. Now THAT I want to see when its completed :bighand:

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Never seen it, so thanks for the tip, might well be worth a detour next time I am over that way!

Take the turn for Lutterworth and the monument/memorial/statue is in the middle of the roundabout 100 meters or so from the M way.


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Never seen it, so thanks for the tip, might well be worth a detour next time I am over that way!

Take the turn for Lutterworth and the monument/memorial/statue is in the middle of the roundabout 100 meters or so from the M way.


About 300 yds from the motorway, at the island where the A426 and A4304 meet, on the way to Lutterworth from rugby on the A426.

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There are believed to be around 30 preserved examples at various collections including the Royal Air Force Museum at Hendon and another (KB336) at the Canadian Aviation Museum in Ottawa. The wooden construction makes restoration difficult.

As of 2004, the original prototype, serial number W4050, was undergoing complete restoration in the de Havilland Aircraft Heritage Centre in Hertfordshire, UK. A restored example is currently on display in the WWII gallery at the National Museum of the United States Air Force. This Mosquito is a British-built B Mk 35 manufactured in 1946, later converted for target-towing, and is similar to the PR Mk XVIs used by the AAF. Having been flown to the Museum in February 1985, suffering several breakdowns along the way and taking many months to arrive, this aircraft has now been restored to a Mk XVI configuration and painted to represent a weather reconnaissance aircraft of the 653rd Bomb Squadron, 25th Bomb Group, based in England in 1944-1945. Another Mosquito is currently under restoration in a hangar at the RAAF Museum at Point Cook, Victoria, Australia.

The last Mosquito known to be airworthy (serial number RR299), a T Mk III built sometime between October 1944 and July 1945, crashed on 21 July 1996 with the loss of both crew after stalling during a banked turn at an airshow at the Barton Aerodrome near Barton, Greater Manchester.

Several potential restorations to airworthiness exist. A flying replica using new wood but otherwise original parts is under construction in New Zealand. Another in New Zealand is being restored for American collector Jerry Yagen, and it is highly likely that this will become the first airworthy Mosquito since 1996. The Mosquito B 35 held in the Experimental Aircraft Association, Oshkosh, Wisconsin, USA was airworthy when owner Kermit Weeks loaned it to the museum.

The Canadian Historical Aircraft Association (CHAA) based in Windsor, Ontario is building a Mosquito from scratch. Glyn Powell located in Papakura, New Zealand has built a mould for the wooden fuselage, and CHAA bought the very first one ever sold. They have two unused engines still in the crates and some parts retrieved from a crash in the Arctic.

In Vancouver B.C. Mosquito VR796 (CF-HML) is currently under restoration at the Vancouver South Airport area. This is an ex-Spartan Air Services Aircraft and is a postwar B Mk35. It is in excellent condition and not far from becoming airworthy.

There you go Fisherman - sit back and watch this space!
YouTube has several clips - including one of the crash at Barton.
There is one somewhere of a Mosquito being run up and taxied somewhere, so the prospects of getting one airbourne again look good. :)

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RobinXe wrote:
Never seen it, so thanks for the tip, might well be worth a detour next time I am over that way!

Take the turn for Lutterworth and the monument/memorial/statue is in the middle of the roundabout 100 meters or so from the M way.


Thanks very much! I won't be driving though :wink:


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Crikey Ernest, that you-tube clip is fantastic! TWO flying Mosquitos' no less.....

Big winding river below, and the buildings look a little "French" to me, wonder where that was?

.............and those two were ruddy LOW!...... Enough to make you duck!...

If I had to guess, I'd say France or...... maybe the USA?


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I LOVE this clip.... it should be shown to all the idiots who complain about "low" flying!!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=c3NjBg80AMc

Only Robin can do better.

Oh, and search for Crazy Boys Puma and it will turn up a nice piece for Robin!

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Yeah, the Puma one did the rounds a while back. I think they're French, though I'm not 100%.

When the complaints about low flying start rolling in, its surprising how many people believe they have carefully calibrated eyeballs (in the same way people seem to when complaining about speeding). Fast jets can only go down to 250' AGL, but it amazes me how many are accused of breaking their auth when they "came over my house about 10' over the chimney", and the like! :lol:

In helicopters we can go down to 100' AGL, which gives an awesome groundrush, especially since you only have to be 30' from trees etc!


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Yes they ARE French. I think it's on a French range and testing ground in Chad.
There is lots more French stuff on YouTube - they obviously dont get flak from above for filming in the cockpit!

Le École spéciale militaire de Saint-Cyr Coetquidan boundary is about 1 kilometre from my parents house in Brittany, and all I can say is there is never a dull moment!!

I accompanied my parents to an annual show for locals at the base, and it was awsome - not least because all the normal airshow rules on flightlines are flouted for the small audience! :shock:
The result was a REAL close up look at their hardware!!
Best moment came when a Puma "sneaked up" behind the trees across the parade ground heading straight for the audience.... and if it was 10 ft above the trees, it was only because the downdraft bent the tops over by a similar amount!! :P
Halfway across the parade ground it stood on it's tail and pulled up dead, allowing a group of french squaddies to alight at speed.
Then it lifted off, and did a climbing turn away, returning about ten minutes later at height to do a double loop the loop! :o

If anyone would like to make one of those belts out of (used) nickel plated 5.56 calibre cartridge cases, let me know!! :D I love re-cycling, and both my boys like collecting shells... safely of course!!

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RobinXe wrote:
Thanks very much! I won't be driving though :wink:
The advantage of rotary wing flying I suppose.

All my flying was done in fixed wing, mostly phantoms. Too noisy and too fast to fly low over populated areas. I rarely had time to pick out towns, much less an individual roundabout.


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Thanks for the info Ernest, so how come the French have wonderful flying Mosquito's like this when we don't?......... I thought the "world" had none left....(still waitin' to book a seat) :lol: Amazing what wood, cloth and resin can do isn't it?........ :wink:


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