fixitsan wrote:
I had only hoped for some information which I could relate to, is that asking too much ? You must believe I can see for myself what you described from what few words you used as, as if it were in front of me. This isn't back -pedalling. I am still interested, but hope you have the sense to see that if you cannot give a reasonably lengthy description covering all the relevant aspects of the situation then you're wasting your own time by giving only a half of a description
I’ve explained why I don’t need to give you a lengthy description. That’s why you were given those relevant links – remember?
HHhmm. No I have to interpret your actions as being that you give links just because you can't be bothered to give an answer. It's how you've been with most other threads where you decide to obsolutely object to what is being said. Of course you absolutely couldn't possibly agree that you are doing thatfixitsan wrote:
In what way do you mean that?
Do you mean have I become rich from it ? No.
Have I made something which defeats ANPRS, yes I have,
Really? I sincerely doubt that. As I said in that other
thread,
HHhhmm.
How much more childish are you capable of getting I wonder ? You are having to cross post on threads just to find something to criticise.
Why dodn't you go back to the thread you are referring to and post a question there to ma about it if you are genuinely interested and aren't just trying to create nonsense in this thread just to confuse matters further. fixitsan wrote:
smeggy wrote:
fixitsan wrote:
I know we won't see any widespread removal of speed cameras, it's one of those things you just get a feel for. If the removal of speed cameras on the grounds that they are profit making devices is succesful where does that leave parking meters , which are a most obvious profit making device ?
Parking meters have not been fraudulently credited with massive KSI reductions and then further rolled out on that basis.
No, they were just claimed not to be fraudulent at all and were rolled out on that basis alone. I pay road tax for use of the road, part of the fuel duty does that too. I do this for each car I own. The car takes up a certain ammount of room and that room has been paid for. It is merely profiteering to charge me for the space it occupies when it is stationary seperately from the charge I have to pay when it is moving. etc etc.
So you
do understand the difference?
Are yo sure you understand that cars cannot be driving at excess speed when stationary when they are parked ? I think you do, but I have to check. I am pointing out the political background to the situation in response to your question about it. Nothing more than that. Now you seem to be going into idea recruitment mode as if to suggest that you were making a significant subtle suggestion to me all along, and you were just waiting for me to catch up. You will get very far that way. Unfortunately it will all be in the wrong direction though fixitsan wrote:
So how does this affect speed cameras ? If there is a governemtn will to keep speed cameras then they shall stay. Any piece of evidence which proves the governemnt wrong either will not be allowed to make it into the media or will be portrayed in a different way if it is allowed through.
I think many would disagree with you there. Even if true, dies that mean we should just roll over and give up?
You think many will disagree with me ? Based on what ? a chat in a pub perhaps ?
Within a few short years parliament will be rendered ineffectual through EU legislation, accelerated yesterday by mention of it in the Queen's Peach. Is Safespeed geared up to work on a European level ? are you personally networking with European counterparts to make sure that the _unelected_ and _undemocratic_ leaders in Brussels give a listening ear to what you have to say PMSL.....
Wake up. there will be no Britain soon, very soon, by 2015 there will definately be no British parliament but we will be part of european regionalsied adminstrations.
Are you aware that Gordon Brown is about to give up our last chance to get out of Europe ?
You can carry an talking about road safety as if controls on road safety aspects aspects which affect yor freedoms are the biggest threat to your personal freedom, if you really want to. I just wish you would hurry up.fixitsan wrote:
I don't want to take away other's efforts either, but we are talking about a biased news system, re-iterating government bias to already biased viewers. For a change so large as to make the government do the massive u-turn required to get cameras removed we need the step up to the next level of government, a proper democratic government.
This is another straw on the camel’s back!
Jolly old jolly stuff then.
The hollowed out governement we now have is giving views to the media it has not generated by itself in the best interests of the people of Britain, but is handing on legislation handed to us from Europe. You can spend much time humouring governenment stats and picking holes in speeches by transport ministers as much as you want, but I would like to suggest that you spend your time considering why they don't respond. It is not because they can't respond but that their agenda does not allow time for a discussion on the subject because their agenda is to get us governed from Europe as quickly as possible. You are not delaying the process.
There is a much larger peril on the horizon, but hey, you don't want to know do you ? jolly old hey ho, have another pint, chuuckle chuckle.
And wake up in a couple of years time when things are too late.Let’s leave that at that as it isn’t relevant.