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I've just heard the news. We are all in imminent danger of being killed by terrorists and we must have lots more security at stations, ports etc. immediately. Gordon Brown says so.

I've got nothing to hide. I don't mind being strip searched when I get on the ferry. We have to stop these maniacs.

For God's sake, why doesn't someone say "We don't care if a few people get killed by you terrorists. Far more will die in our hospitals every year anyway. We won't spend all this money and inconvenience ourselves because of you religious fanatics. Why dont' you just sod off."

Another scare story to frighten us into being observed every moment of the day and be glad of it.

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They could get rid of 'terrorists' easily.
'Terrorists' only exist if people are frightened of them.
Don't be scared and they have no control.

By not suggesting this the government are surely causing fear and terror.

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Andrew.

I haven't heard the news (link please?), but are they suggesting implementing airline-style security on the ferries?

I hope not. I like the ferries because they are stress free and I'm allowed to take the tools required to do my job over with me.

I've been searched once on the ferry, but from what I can gather the main motivation is that the security guard was interested in my car. I asked if my swiss army knife was ok and he looked shocked and had no idea what to do or whether it was ok or not. Fortunately it was my return journey, so I showed him the outbound ticket and pointed out that I hadn't murdered the entire crew and hijacked the boat, and he decided that was enough and was happy to let me carry on.

Really though, who wants to hijack a boat containing myself, 20 truckers and an old couple in a Volvo. Maybe they could crash it into Blackpool pier murdering a few hundred people, nobody would ever see that coming

It was a very brief mention on BBC News 24 which I saw.

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Andrew.

Found an article, it's very long

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7093752.stm



Baggage screening and passenger searches at railway stations. LOL that's going to get me out of the car and onto the train, especially in these days of having to book your ticket six months in advance and travel at an exact time if you want the trip to be even vaguely affordable..
"Whew! made it to the train station with 5 minutes to spare, even after the bus being late..."
"excuse me sir, please step over here while I check your rectum for explosives, it'll only take 5 minutes", then later..
"ohh. You'll have to upgrade your ticket to an open ticket if you want to use a different train, that'll be an additional £125 please" "I'm sorry. It's not my fault you missed your train"

At least I can now take two bags onto the plane (though no guarantee that I will be able to take them both back with me on my return journey), but I still can't take my eczema cream as it comes in 125g tubes and security staff haven't yet figured out that 1g = 1ml only works for water.

According to the Daily Wail, you will be obliged to give your e-mail address and your credit cards details if you want to travel. This will be part of the 53 pieces of information the Government wants from you. Who knows, they might forbid you to travel if they think you've been binge travelling.

What worries me is could they forbid you to travel if you have points on your license? Note the point regarding car number plates.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/a ... ge_id=1770

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By the way.. I .. er .. am not in the habit of killing my patients here. They have lurgy.. I try. They do die. I try to prolong their lives with dignity and self worth all the same. But I'm not "God" here.

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How many terror attacks have there been on planes trains and boats coming into and going out of the UK? I can only remember 1 lockerbie?

Has there been others?

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Deflection politics from the rest of the crap they are piling on us. Must be some hidden taxation or anti car measures somewhere in the rest of the news releases.

Mind you I'm not cynical.

Keep the population afraid, control their fears and control them, very Machiavellian!

Yes, I'm worried by the terrorism response too...

- I'm very worried about basic human freedoms that are being compromised in the name of preventing terrorism.

- I'm worried about the practical delays and inconvenience at airports and the like. Flying was never pleasant, but it's getting worse fast. More queuing and more waiting is simply hatefull.

- I CANNOT understand why the government does not appreciate that compromising our rights and lifestyles is a massive victory for the terrorists. I wouldn't give the terrorists any such satisfaction under any circumstances.

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What? you mean, fuckyouyoufatscottishgit@hotmail.com

Surely I'm not the only person who keeps an email address specifically for giving to people who I dont want to have one of my main ones.

We really do seem to be taking our lead from the US on this one.

Throughout the approximately 30 years of The Troubles in N.I. we faced a far more present and immediate terrorist threat on the UK mainland and yet life, by and large, went on. There were an estimated 16,200 bombings or attempted bombings throughout the period, that's in the order of 10 a week, for 30 years! The quintessential British stiff upper lip prevailed, and we refused to let the terrorists compromise our quality of life.

Fast forward a few years, and the government has realised that through Machiavellian machinations they can engineer the situation to suit their purposes. They gain increased direct control and monitoring over our daily lives, the kudos of taking a stand, the ability to piggy-back potentially unpopular policies on "anti-terrorism" initiatives, and the ability to raise increased revenue, not to mention the diversionary aspect from their failings elsewhere.

I rather fear that instead of representing the wishes and interests of the British people, they are playing some sort of game with our country, where to 'win' is to retain power and employment in the public sector for as long as possible.

Ever since WW2 successive governments seem to have been determined to scare the s**t out of us.

First it was the Cold War – the US and USSR were going to nuke us into oblivion. Didn't happen.

Then it was overpopulation – the UK population was about to explode, Britain would become horrifically overcrowded and we would turn on each other like rats. Then someone invented the Pill and it didn't happen (until the present government opened the immigration floodgates, anyway).

Next, all natural resources were going to be exhausted within a few years – better exploration/exploitation techniques were developed and it didn't happen.

The “new Ice Age” was next – that didn't happen, either.

Since then we've had scares about how salmonella, BSE, AIDS, the Millennium Bug, Bird Flu and goodness knows what else were going to devastate the UK and bring an end to Civilisation As We Know It. Guess what – they didn't. (Anyone see a pattern emerging here?)

Now it's man-made global warming, and that's not happening either (they've even altered the name to “climate change” which nicely covers all eventualities).

Perhaps the “obesity epidemic” (whatever that is) will kill us all in instead.

Or perhaps they just want a frightened, cowed and compliant population of sheep?

OK, I might be paranoid, but...........

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Haha I was thinking along similar lines, if they do start requiring email address for some odd reason we should set up an account for anyone to use such as what you suggest above

No need, there's enough sources of free email accounts out there for everyone to come up with their own personal insult to the prime minister and register that account with the government surveilance schemes.

Though I suppose a communal account would be funnier if they run any reports on the system and find that half the country have the same email address. It'd be like that guy who made duplicates of his Tesco clubcard available for download in order to confuse their marketing department, only with insults to Gordon Brown thrown in for good measure.

Lets do it

I just hope they then don't make you register ALL your email addresses to counter this. I would have to write a small computer program to come up with every possible combination of letters, numbers and punctuation @mydomain.co.uk up to the maximum length of an email address, which I think is something like 255 characters, then print it out (in a 4pt font obviously) and put "see attached sheet" in that space on the form and post it to their data entry plebs.

I believe there are several per week! How else do the immigrants arrive?

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Actually I agree with the sentiments you express here.

However, if we accept that the real threat of a terrorist attack does not warrant such extreme measures, we also have to accept that the security services may not latch onto a developing plot early enough to prevent it from being enacted.
The media however will criticise whichever way the pendulum swings but they are undisputed gold medallists in the deployment of 20:20 hindsight after something has happened. I am growing to despise the media more and more for the shit-stirring it engages in in order to sell its grubby wares. The Madelaine McCann tale is the worst example of vile journalistic practice where, one day things are definately X and then the next, with no attempt at joined up thinking, things are now Y. Bastards.

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In my mind, the terrorists have already won. The amount of inconvenience everyone has to suffer now is over the top. I can get to Edinburgh quicker by train, car or motorbike than fly from Birmingham Airport now, purely because of the additional delays.

All in the name of 'security'.

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They must reckon my mother-in-law is a bit suspicious. She's got no passport, no driving license, no computer, no email address, no mobile phone, no credit cards and only uses cash. She MUST be a terrorist hiding something...