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Had this come through to my home e-mail, may be of interest:



Last week I was informed that a group called Transaction 2007 had plans this weekend to release a statement announcing some kind of protest action relating to the price of fuel in the UK. I have just read a statement published on their web site in which they have confirmed that they are going to organise legal protest action, and that it could begin as early as this Wednesday.

I have got more on the PetrolPrices.com blog about this:

http://www.petrolprices.com/blog/petrol ... ay-86.html

We will of course be following the story as it unfolds next week to keep you informed. If you want to express your opinion about the plans you can do so on our blog, as always, by leaving your comments and voting in our polls.

Regards,
Brendan

Brendan McLoughlin
Co-Founder
PetrolPrices.com
t: 0844 8160025
e: brendan@petrolprices.com

This press release was put out by Transaction 2007:

The following statement is released on 9th December 2007 at 17:20Hrs

"TransAction 2007" makes you aware, that a nationwide legal protest against high fuel taxation will take place at various locations. These will be made available as will the date and time during the coming days. Protest action will take place on the same date and at the same time.

Person(s) participating in the demonstration do so on their own inititive. You will be advised of a "meeting area". If you have not already registered on the "TransAction 2007" forum section of the website, now is the time to support this LEGAL demonstration.

"TransAction 2007" would emphasis, you should comply with police instructions. Any person seen acting outside of police instruction will be reported and asked to be removed from the protest area. Further information will be released here as we receive it.

Your attention should be focused on Wednesday 12th December 2007. "TransAction 2007" would like to thank everyone for their support in this campaign. We act as individuals but stand as one.

In finishing, "TransAction 2007" respectfully request that both HM Treasury and the Directors of the Road Haulage Association, urgently meet and enter into sincere and constructive dialogue to achieve an amicable solution to resolve this long standing issue over fuel duty that would be acceptable to all parties concerned. Negotiation should be the way forward !

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Gordon Brown saying I got the country into it's current economic mess so I'll get us out of it is the same as Bomber Harris nipping over to Dresden and offering to repair a few windows.

Chaos, panic and disorder - my work here is done.

http://www.wildcrafts.co.uk

Love it. We're protesting, but only in a way which the police are happy with, and thus presumably won't cause any disruption to anyone... am I wrong? But aren't protests meant to be about getting up peoples (namely the authorities) noses and causing a right old stir? Like the 2000 protests did - not surprisingly they actually had a positive effect.

Yes, but nowadays if you don't hold your protest correctly you end up in prison on terrorism charges

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Prepare to be Judged

Would the best protest not be that everyone used PT for a week and were continually late for work or unable to get there at all? There would be food shortages immediately as everyone panic bought to deal with the food shortages. Seeing some of the heffers wandering around these days a few days without stuffing their faces would do them the world of good.

The easy answer to most of the problems is to harmonise fuel duty across the EU, crackdown on illegal hours and make sure that HGVs pay for the damage they do the roads fully. There also needs to be a heavy penalty for supermarkets that send food produced in one country to be packed in another when the country of sale is the same as the production country. Pay per mile costs on HGVs would also reduce the unnecessary to-ing and fro-ing of goods and make sure they paid their share for the direct damage they do to the roads. The m6 is rutted to hell in the inside lanes where the lorries travel. I also think the 40mph SC limit should be changed to 50mph to improve delivery times and make SC roads more smooth flowing. Most drivers will sit behind an HGV doing 50-55. Not many want to sit behind one doing 40.

not if 10,000 people held a protest which didn't comply with the law. although I imagine they'd still do a few hundred - which is enough to put everyone off (including myself). My point wasn't that I am disgusted they aren't doing a proper protest, but that we have got to a stage where protests cant be done in a way which actually has the desired effect of a protest - how ridiculous is that?

To be fair, you have to give them (politicians... not just labour) credit for having been able to blindly lead us into this scenario - they have succeeded in repressing the people through fear of terrorrism (all protests are terrorrism, so as long as you're not a terrorist this wont effect you).

Some more arrived today:


Dear Brett,

Thank you for signing up to the www.fuelprotest.com web site.

You are one of thousands of like-minded people that can and will help
to make a difference.

E-Petition @ No. 10
In an effort to undermine on-line petitions such as ours, our
Government has taken such petitions under its wing.

An E-Petition has been launched on the Government's web site to ask for
a reduction in the fuel duty that we have to pay in the UK. At
present it only has a couple of thousand names and really needs your support.

What can you do?
1. Visit the following site and sign up ASAP.
2. Please pass on this message to as many friends as you can and ask
them to help.

This link will just take you to the page.
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/reducefuelduty/

Remember that our actions in 2000 and 2003 helped to keep fuel duty
frozen.

Let’s make Gordon Brown sit up and listen to the voices of the people.

Yours sincerely,

FuelProtest.com

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Gordon Brown saying I got the country into it's current economic mess so I'll get us out of it is the same as Bomber Harris nipping over to Dresden and offering to repair a few windows.

Chaos, panic and disorder - my work here is done.

http://www.wildcrafts.co.uk

galleywood eh?
handy for the school by the looks of it.

Ed & Anton,

Thanks gents, ever had one of those days ????

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Gordon Brown saying I got the country into it's current economic mess so I'll get us out of it is the same as Bomber Harris nipping over to Dresden and offering to repair a few windows.

Chaos, panic and disorder - my work here is done.

http://www.wildcrafts.co.uk

This petition is doing very well today. It's put on well over 1,000 to reach 5,391 and is presently ranked 39th.

I've signed it.

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Paul Smith
Our scrap speed cameras petition got over 28,000 sigs
The Safe Speed campaign demands a return to intelligent road safety

Does anyone know what the protests are supposed to be? As far as I can work out it's "meet at your local refinery of fuel depot"... Yeah because I know where one is...?!

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Andrew.

Let them just try to arrest thousands of protestors on terrorism charges and watch what happens.

NEVER let fear of prosecution stop you from exercising your right to free speech. If you do then you are no longer living in a democracy.

Count me in on any protest that anyone wants to arrange.

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“For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat, and wrong.” - H. L. Mencken

There's limited info on http://www.transaction-2007.com:



There's also a truck slow-drive planned for Parliament Square tomorrow:
http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default ... ryId=17315

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Paul Smith
Our scrap speed cameras petition got over 28,000 sigs
The Safe Speed campaign demands a return to intelligent road safety

Why arrest. ANPR the vehicles, S172 the keeper, prosecute.

Are we in a democracy?

We just keep getting told you cannot and you must...........

No reference to what we want or need, in my opinion

As an aside - and perhaps a pointer...heard on the news tonight that Italian transport workers have called off their 'blockade' after three days as the government have agreed to consider drivers' complaints about the high cost of diesel - around £1.95/gallon now, I understand, following a 25p/gal increase at the beginning of this month.

I was totally unaware of the action now reported, but obviously the Italians had a case and have made their point forcibly and quickly. But if the figures above are correct, we must have a case for civil disobedience - almost civil war!

I'm not promoting or condoning any unlawful actions, of course - but with diesel now at about £5/gal....!!

Which is entirely our point !!

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The Box said "Windows XP or better" ... So I installed Ubuntu

which, of course, prompted my post!

http://www.thisishampshire.net/news/dai ... secret.php
Fuel protests kept secret
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DETAILS of tomorrow's (sat 15th) threatened fuel protests are still masked by a veil of secrecy.

Campaigners have called for mass action outside oil refineries across Britain, with the Esso site at Fawley one of the major targets.

Transaction 2007, a group of motorists, hauliers and farmers, hopes to force the Government to lower its levy on petrol and diesel as prices at the pumps soar above £1 a litre.

Earlier this week the organisation announced it was planning a protest along similar lines to those in September 2000, which caused some petrol stations to run dry as motorists panicked about supplies.

The law has since been changed to ensure the blockades of seven years ago cannot be repeated, and organisers insist these protests will be entirely legal.

It is known that a group of protesters will be congregating near the Fawley refinery, the biggest in the UK, from about 9.30am.

advertisementThe protest officially starts at 10am.

However it is unclear how many campaigners will turn up, what they plan to do once they are at the site, or how long they will stay.

Members have spent the week debating the merits of the action on the group's website, with advice on how objectors should stay within the law and what to do if they are arrested.

Hampshire Police say they are monitoring the situationand and have contingency plans to deal with protests.

7:10am today

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Speed limit sign radio interview. TV Snap Unhappy
“It has never been the rule in this country – I hope it never will be - that suspected criminal offences must automatically be the subject of prosecution” He added that there should be a prosecution: “wherever it appears that the offence or the circumstances of its commission is or are of such a character that a prosecution in respect thereof is required in the public interest”
This approach has been endorsed by Attorney General ever since 1951. CPS Code

Like arresting them all under the terrorism act? If they do protest I hope they stand their ground. This government is starting to £iss more and more people off. It’s about time we all stood up to them and not just leave it to a few farmers and haulers to do it for us, it effects us all .

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Useless laws weaken necessary laws.

"Oh... shit, that was quite effective of them, they brought the country to it's knees. Maybe we shouldn't take the piss with prices in the future?"

"nah.. let's just call them all terrorists and ban protests like it"

"ahhh, good thinking, good thinking. We'll fuck em again on prices in a few years - and then they can't stop us. mwahaha"

"why don't we sign up to the EU Constitution without letting them vote on it while we're at it?"
"good thinking!!! we'll even promise them a referendum in our manifesto. That'll really piss them off! haha"

"ohhh. another one, we could also make up stories about how it's all there fault the worlds gonna end, and tax the shit out of them in order to 'save the earth' or summink."
"you are on FIRE today. I'm not giving up my jag though"
"nor my private jet!"

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