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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 17:29 
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A major report on the effects of allowing motorcycles to use bus lanes provides overwhelming evidence of startling safety benefits to cyclists and pedestrians, as well as motorcyclists, but has been suppressed for political reasons. The long-awaited report, commissioned by Transport for London (TfL) and leaked to Telegraph Motoring, should have been published last October. After two years of prevarication, however, it remains a secret - despite showing clear and immediate safety benefits that would apply to the whole country.

This obviously smacks of anti-motorcyclist prejudice on the part of TfL :x

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 17:35 
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PeterE wrote:
This obviously smacks of anti-motorcyclist prejudice on the part of TfL :x


Er, but it set up the trial in the first place, and has said that it was re-examining the results after querying methodologies.

And I've not looked into it, but this large scale trial was probably preceeded by smaller trials that demonstrated that a larger scale trial was worth it.


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This obviously smacks of anti-motorcyclist prejudice on the part of TfL :x


Er, but it set up the trial in the first place, and has said that it was re-examining the results after querying methodologies.


I not saying it is the case here, but querying methodologies is the one of the things people do when they don't like the outcome of research.

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A major report on the effects of allowing motorcycles to use bus lanes provides overwhelming evidence of startling safety benefits to cyclists and pedestrians, as well as motorcyclists, but has been suppressed for political reasons.


They needed a major report to figure this out? And we wonder where our taxes are going. Sheesh!

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They needed a major report to figure this out? And we wonder where our taxes are going. Sheesh!

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Have a look at the accounts of councils for the year after a housing stock transfer vote threw out the idea ---by order of the Gov't (Office of Deputy PM,I think) the council had to spend a huge sum asking the residents why they had rejected the idea ,and then worder why those councils were hard up.. Daft - you couldn't make it up. :o

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To compare this to a local example, my street had a parking scheme put in place in '98, they questionnaired the street initially, the street rejected it after a couple of residents went round explaining the full details to people. The council got the results in, tsk tsk - no support, so they re-did the questionnaire but included 4 additional streets. The original residents did not have time to campaign an extra thousand or so properties and the scheme was passed.

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To compare this to a local example, my street had a parking scheme put in place in '98, they questionnaired the street initially, the street rejected it after a couple of residents went round explaining the full details to people. The council got the results in, tsk tsk - no support, so they re-did the questionnaire but included 4 additional streets. The original residents did not have time to campaign an extra thousand or so properties and the scheme was passed.

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Motorcycles offer safety benefits? Not what they want, query it until it says otherwise.


And as in my example - who footed the bill ????
And interestingly enough(in my example) - the Secretary for the department concerned - last heard of in Transport before being whisked off to perform magic on the economy(as in the Sorcerers apprentice) - the new Chancer of the cheques.

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motorbiking in london needs a beady eye on every single sign, as some bus lanes are allowed some not and some only at certain times of the day.

The most dangerous time to use a bus lane is 5 mins after the time ends. People suddenly realise they can use the bus lane and dive in without looking.


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