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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 13:01 
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The 10mph motorist with a fear of driving
Last Updated: 3:12am GMT 22/12/2007

A woman who suffers from a clinical fear of driving is facing a ban after police caught her creeping down a motorway at 10mph.

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The phobia was revealed in court after Stephanie Cole, 57, pleaded guilty to driving without reasonable consideration.

Police spotted Mrs Cole on the M32 in Bristol in her mini MPV - with a sign in the back which read "I do not drive fast, please over take" - at 1pm on Aug 30 this year.

She was straddling the hard shoulder and the inside lane on the 70mph motorway and, despite driving at a walking pace, repeatedly jammed on her brakes.

Officers pulled Mrs Cole over only to be told: "I'm scared. I've no confidence on the motorway. Last time this happened the policeman drove me there."

Mrs Cole, of Fishponds, Bristol, pleaded guilty to driving without reasonable consideration by letter yesterday at North Avon magistrates' court. The case was adjourned for her to appear in person as she is likely to be banned.

In a letter, read to the court, Mrs Cole said her GP had been treating her for a "fear of driving" for the past three and a half years. She said: "I think a driver improvement course would help."

The chairman of the bench, Malcolm Richardson, said: "We have no doubt that the bench should seriously consider banning Mrs Cole from driving for this offence.

"It's unfortunate that the current requirements of the driving test would not require Mrs Cole either to drive on the motorway or at night, both of which are an issue with her medical condition.

"We shall adjourn the case till Jan 4. I hope she doesn't drive here."


If she's like that on the motorway, I can't see her driving being much different on other roads :shock: .

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Don't tell me...

She's never been involved in an accident but heard of hundreds on local news...

Funnily enough all on the same routes she used... She must've been real lucky to have not got caught up in those....

Missed em by seconds !!

The mind boggles.

I'm against Laws just for Laws sake but.... There should be a new law.... Driving without Moral consideration.

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Do you think all these 'Speed Kills' campaign could have helped boost her confidence in any way?

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her GP had been treating her for a "fear of driving" for the past three and a half years


Wouldn't a driving instuctor have been better for this "medical condition" ????


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her GP had been treating her for a "fear of driving" for the past three and a half years


Wouldn't a driving instuctor have been better for this "medical condition" ????


Perhaps hoping she'd get an improvement course on the NHS ??

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Perhaps hoping she'd get an improvement course on the NHS ??


She should've just driven through a camera at 35mph..

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I believe the most effective treatment for a phobia is "flooding" where the subject is "immersed" in the trigger of the phobia under controlled conditions, until they become desensitised.

Sounds like a job for... THE STIG! :lol:

However on a serious note, I dont believe somebody with such a real fear should be allowed on the road without some form of treatment, for their own protection - the results of somebody travelling at the legal speed and encountering such a slower vehicle could be catastrophic.

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Strange you should say that, I seem to have come across many of her ilk this week!... :roll:


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How sad that she feels compelled to continue driving, yet spends all of the journey in a state of utter fear. :(

I do hope her doctor can help her out. I used an NLP tape to cure myself of a phobia. It worked very well. Hopefully someone will suggest this to her.

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On a not dissimilar note, a friend yesterday regailed me with the tale of his wife's successful businesswoman friend who came for a meal at their house in her Mazda RX8. Glancing at her car as he arrived home from work he notices that the tyres seemd a little, er, flatter than they should be. To cut a long story short he took her to Asda's garage and showed her the amazing gadget they have for inflating tyres, something she thought it was only possible for a garage to do when the car was serviced.
All the tyre pressure were well down, one was actually at 5psi :shock:
The car had apparently been handling funny but she'd assumed it was the bad weather :banghead:

And yesterday in an NSL zone, we overtook a van occupied by a couple of indeterminate age that was doing 30 mph. We overtook it easily in a coach.


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When I had my dogs (2xhuskies), out with my (Mountain) bike, a car was going so slowly (on a bright summers day) that I decided to overtake ! :lol: The rest of the road was empty (course) ...

A reckon she was going slowly due to the really handsome dude walking along the road !


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When I had my dogs (2xhuskies), out with my (Mountain) bike, a car was going so slowly (on a bright summers day) that I decided to overtake ! :lol: The rest of the road was empty (course) ...

A reckon she was going slowly due to the really handsome dude walking along the road !

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Noticed this on PH

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Just to resurrect this for a moment, I had the following snippet come through from the Institute of Advanced Motorists today.

I'm glad to see that the IAM have stated their stance that they are, and have always been, in favour of the safe use of speed but it's a bit worrying to learn that this woman has been successful in regaining her licence.

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You will recall the recent story of the poor lady from Bristol who was fined for doing 10mph on the M32. She reportedly suffered from a clinical fear of driving as well as MS, and claimed she had joined the M32 by accident.

It would be unfair to harp on about this particular case, but it does remind us of the need for every driver to make good progress at all times, subject to the driving conditions and speed limits encountered. Sadly, many drivers now seem to drive well within the prescribed limits and overtaking seems to be a dying art. The reasons are not hard to find.

Speed cameras have made everybody err on the safe side – better to be under the prescribed limit than over. However, most car speedometers over-read by anything up to 10%, so somebody doing an indicated 37mph in a 40 limit to ensure they are definitely not placing their licence in peril, could actually be doing as little as 34 mph and needlessly holding the flow of traffic as a result.

As for overtaking, it seems some drivers simply won’t do it on single carriageway roads any more – presumably for fear of momentarily exceeding the speed limit and getting caught in the act. As a result, we see an increasing number of queues tailing back behind slow moving vehicles such as tractors and heavily laden good vehicles.

The IAM has always supported the safe and legal use of speed and will continue to do so.

The case of the lady from Bristol has a happy ending! IAM staff examiner Andy Poulton spent some time with her after she regained her licence, in order to boost her confidence behind the wheel.

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And today - yet again another LONG tail back by guess what - a scamera van !
Still after 10 miles, it did finally pull over to let the traffic go - so I suppose that was something. But considering that if you have a tractor you *HAVE* to pull over when you have got up to 28 cars behind you.
I hope that they make a rule, that if scameravans have - oh let's say - 2 vehicles, behind them - they must pull over and let the traffic flow !!!!
I reckon that there was about 40 cars in his queue !

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As for overtaking, it seems some drivers simply won’t do it on single carriageway roads any more – presumably for fear of momentarily exceeding the speed limit and getting caught in the act. As a result, we see an increasing number of queues tailing back behind slow moving vehicles such as tractors and heavily laden good vehicles.
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toltec wrote:
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The case of the lady from Bristol has a happy ending! IAM staff examiner Andy Poulton spent some time with her after she regained her licence, in order to boost her confidence behind the wheel.

Hmm, has she really taken and passed an extended retest in such a short time?

Contributors to www.advanced-driving.co.uk seem to think this message has got somewhat garbled in the retelling.

Could it be that Andy Poulton is also an ADI and has taken her out as a learner?

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Could it be that Andy Poulton is also an ADI and has taken her out as a learner?


You think she regained her license after the ban but a provisional license not full. That does seem the most likely situation to me.

Hopefully an ADI will either get her driving up to a good standard or tell her not to bother retaking the test.

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How sad that she feels compelled to continue driving, yet spends all of the journey in a state of utter fear.


Re-reading this thread now it's popped up again, I can't help but agree.

What's even sadder is that the likes of Brake think that drivers like Safespeed members who clearly enjoy driving are considered to be more of a problem group, rather than those who clearly don't enjoy it


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And here is that quote from Lorna Jackson of Brake:
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“This case sends out a very strange message to drivers. Mrs Cole was not breaking the speed limit or endangering anyone with her actions, yet she received a seven day ban, when we commonly see drivers caught travelling at 80 or 90mph get away with a fine and three points. While it is not common to encounter someone travelling at 10mph on a motorway, a competent driver should always be looking well ahead and predicting when they need to overtake a slower vehicle."


So Lorna Jackson thinks it perfectly acceptable for someone to be driving at 10mph on a motorway. :o

I now have no respect for Brake whatsoever. I am afraid I now hold Brake in utter contempt. Lorna Jackson shows herself to be nowt but a cynical opportunist and someone who is totally bereft of any concept of road safety.

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