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Whatever, happened to the good ole' days when all bikes had a reserve tap? A good mechanical one you reached down by your left leg and turned. It was good and faultless.


True enough. In those days, you could get petrol from many garages dotted along the roads. There are far fewer today. The reserve tap came in handy for me once. I was being obnoxious (as ever) on my Kawasaki Triple http://w1.bikepics.com/pics/2004%5C06%5C29%5Cbikepics-173115-320.jpg

in the high street (this was back in '76), doing fierce accelerations, and swerving about. Anyway, a copper spotted me and made me stop. She was going to give me a ticket, but I protested that I had just switched to reserve, and that made me swerve (you had to sort of lean down and under)!

She let me off!

Holy shit, I've used VC's account by mistake! Now I've blown it... he'll have my guts for garters.


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Whatever, happened to the good ole' days when all bikes had a reserve tap? A good mechanical one you reached down by your left leg and turned. It was good and faultless.


True enough. In those days, you could get petrol from many garages dotted along the roads. There are far fewer today. The reserve tap came in handy for me once. I was being obnoxious (as ever) on my Kawasaki Triple http://w1.bikepics.com/pics/2004%5C06%5C29%5Cbikepics-173115-320.jpg

in the high street (this was back in '76), doing fierce accelerations, and swerving about. Anyway, a copper spotted me and made me stop. She was going to give me a ticket, but I protested that I had just switched to reserve, and that made me swerve (you had to sort of lean down and under)!

She let me off!

Holy shit, I've used VC's account by mistake! Now I've blown it... he'll have my guts for garters.


Total topic drift now but - you had one of them VC and lived to tell the tail?

Sorry folks, but for those who don't know it's the equivilent of straddling a bull, bare back, while someone sets fire to its nads!

I think more bikers lost thier lives on those than on any other motorbike!


So, does anyone have information on whether it really is illegal to run out of fuel on a motorway?

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Total topic drift now but - you had one of them VC and lived to tell the tail?

Sorry folks, but for those who don't know it's the equivilent of straddling a bull, bare back, while someone sets fire to its nads!

I think more bikers lost thier lives on those than on any other motorbike!



Yes, I had the 250 (S1) version, and then the 400 cc (s3). Even with those small engines, those raw, two-stroke bikes were hotter than the chains of hell. I wanted to buy the 750 (I forget the name of that now - we just called it "the killer") but I bought a boring BMW boxer instead, and rode to Munich on it. I still want the 750 - there's still time.

Yeah, sorry about this topic drift, I dunno about whether running out of petrol is OK or not. I think it is - I've done it often enough.


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(Smug mode on): I've got a nice fuel gauge on mine Sixy :)


Well La DE F*cking Da!! :P :lol: :D :D


I’ve got one on mine, not sure if it’s the same bike as tone’s.

Does that make it La La De De F*cking F*cking Da!! Da!!
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Whatever, happened to the good ole' days when all bikes had a reserve tap? A good mechanical one you reached down by your left leg and turned. It was good and faultless.

Okay so it spluttered for a few seconds but it never left you flagging in L3 of the M5. Had an interesting moment trying to get across a junction once :yikes:

Tried never to rely on reserve after that.

BTW. My bike? KLV1000 (Same as VSTROM) Suits me cuz I got legs longer than a giraffe's neck.


Nice bike tone, I’m a bit more of the sporty type, Honda VFR800. The old mechanical reserves where good in that you knew how much petrol you had when switched over and, as you say they were also handy for getting you out of trouble. I quite like having the petrol gauge and it’s not bad on accuracy, now I'm familiar with it I have a fair idea how far I’ve got left to travel. The bike I had before was the Honda VTR fire storm, you didn’t get far on a tank full and if you waited for the flashing reserve light (no gauge), and didn’t know where the petrol stations where, you had to run round at a snail’s pace and take deep breaths until you found one. I even had to plan my journeys if I was going out long runs to make sure there where petrol stations on route.

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Total topic drift now but - you had one of them VC and lived to tell the tail?

Sorry folks, but for those who don't know it's the equivilent of straddling a bull, bare back, while someone sets fire to its nads!

I think more bikers lost thier lives on those than on any other motorbike!



Yes, I had the 250 (S1) version, and then the 400 cc (s3). Even with those small engines, those raw, two-stroke bikes were hotter than the chains of hell. I wanted to buy the 750 (I forget the name of that now - we just called it "the killer") but I bought a boring BMW boxer instead, and rode to Munich on it. I still want the 750 - there's still time.

Yeah, sorry about this topic drift, I dunno about whether running out of petrol is OK or not. I think it is - I've done it often enough.



Hmmm. OK Valle Crucis or whatever your real identity is. Take care.

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Take care.


Thanks, big guy, you too ... it's been a tough day, all told.


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If I had run out of fuel it would not have been incompetence, as I have made this journey several times on one tank of petrol, it would have been bad luck.


I was trolled by a bad man on another thread for saying this, but assumption is the mother of all screw-ups. Is it bad luck to assume that, because you make a journey several times on one tank, you can always make the journey? At what point does it become negligence?


But what if looking at my trip computer, I decided to get fuel after Antwerp, knowing that the next petrol station is about 20-30 miles away. As I travel frequently enough to know where the petrol stations are. However this jam was longer and I run out of petrol.

There is a difference between going on to a motorway Knowing you are going to run out of petrol, and making an error in judgement. Which will happen because we are all human.

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There is a difference between going on to a motorway Knowing you are going to run out of petrol, and making an error in judgement. Which will happen because we are all human.


That is why we have the laws ... to guide us to make better judgments and stop us from acting like monkeys. I'd far rather do whatever I like, as you can see from the way I treat RobinXe. But the moderators have their laws too, and they have branded me for being "leader of the opposition", so to speak. What's the difference?

By the way - here is a proper motorcycle - a Kawsaki Triple. They don't make them like this anymore (thank God, eh). No fuel gauges on that (you'd actually be lucky to make 100 miles to the tank, though).

http://www.geocities.com/tomcatloftis_2000/750SS.jpg


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the way I treat RobinXe.


:lol:

...and just how do you fantasise that you treat me?

You're simply annoyed at me for highlighting that your posts read like those of an incredibly inconsiderate, selfish, intolerant, narrow-minded, self-righteous motorist of rather low intelligence. I don't believe that any genuine individual can espouse these charactaristics to the extreme degree you purport to, and am firmly of the opinion that you are merely 'playing a role' to make some sort of point, yet to be revealed.

Believe me when I assure you that noone here views you as the "leader" of anything. A significant proportion view you as presenting a caricature of extremity, and thus its impossible to take the vast majority of what you say seriously.

Still, you've largely managed to remain somewhat civil, so do try to keep it that way!


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Valle Crucis wrote:
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There is a difference between going on to a motorway Knowing you are going to run out of petrol, and making an error in judgement. Which will happen because we are all human.


That is why we have the laws ... to guide us to make better judgments and stop us from acting like monkeys. I'd far rather do whatever I like, as you can see from the way I treat RobinXe. But the moderators have their laws too, and they have branded me for being "leader of the opposition", so to speak. What's the difference?

By the way - here is a proper motorcycle - a Kawsaki Triple. They don't make them like this anymore (thank God, eh). No fuel gauges on that (you'd actually be lucky to make 100 miles to the tank, though).

http://www.geocities.com/tomcatloftis_2000/750SS.jpg


I am not saying the law is not vaild, I think it is.... However I am more interested where the line is between breaking the law and being within the law so to speak.

note: please don't quote me and then attack other fourm members, who I happen to respect

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BTW. My bike? KLV1000 (Same as VSTROM) Suits me cuz I got legs longer than a giraffe's neck.
Ahem. If you're going to buy that engine why not get the original, and best, incarnation. The TL1000S. :twisted:

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BTW. My bike? KLV1000 (Same as VSTROM) Suits me cuz I got legs longer than a giraffe's neck.
Ahem. If you're going to buy that engine why not get the original, and best, incarnation. The TL1000S. :twisted:


Cuz I'd rather not wrap myself around a lampost. ;) I'm sure you know the story about the handling...

I'd rather arrive late in this world than early for the next :)

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Wot's a fuel gauge?? Seriously - there is actually no way to tell how much is in the tank without actually opening it on alot of bikes - of the 4 in our house, NON of them have a fuel gauge.


Still feeling smug here :) :hehe:

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Big Tone wrote:
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BTW. My bike? KLV1000 (Same as VSTROM) Suits me cuz I got legs longer than a giraffe's neck.
Ahem. If you're going to buy that engine why not get the original, and best, incarnation. The TL1000S. :twisted:


Cuz I'd rather not wrap myself around a lampost. ;) I'm sure you know the story about the handling...

I'd rather arrive late in this world than early for the next :)
:lol: I've had mine for nearly 8 years and it hasn't killed me ye...

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MrsMiggins wrote:
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BTW. My bike? KLV1000 (Same as VSTROM) Suits me cuz I got legs longer than a giraffe's neck.
Ahem. If you're going to buy that engine why not get the original, and best, incarnation. The TL1000S. :twisted:


Cuz I'd rather not wrap myself around a lampost. ;) I'm sure you know the story about the handling...

I'd rather arrive late in this world than early for the next :)
:lol: I've had mine for nearly 8 years and it hasn't killed me ye...




And long may that continue Mrs M! :)

(Bet she's got a steering damper or something :) )

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Big Tone wrote:
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Wot's a fuel gauge?? Seriously - there is actually no way to tell how much is in the tank without actually opening it on alot of bikes - of the 4 in our house, NON of them have a fuel gauge.


Still feeling smug here :) :hehe:

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Not only is it a fuel gauge, its a DIGITAL one!!! :bow: :hehe:

*Six - allergic to electronic gismo's on motor vehicles.*

Give me a kickstarter and a set of points and I'm happy. :D

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In an effort to find what the law or offence is regarding running out of fuel on motorways, I came across this interesting article..


"Over three quarters of UK motorists in the easyCar survey said Italy had the fastest drivers. That's not surprising as the country has one of the world's highest speed limits at 130kph (81 mph), along with Austria, the Czech Republic, Turkey and France. And Germany's 130kph limit is merely a recommendation, not an enforced regulation. Meanwhile, the award for the most lenient speed laws in the world goes to India - there aren't any."

http://www.easycar.com/DrivingSurvey/ch_5.htm

Have a look at the link on there to the PDF version. Tonnes of factoids... :)

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Does that make it La La De De F*cking F*cking Da!! Da!!
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Nope, it makes you sound Welsh :D

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BTW. My bike? KLV1000 (Same as VSTROM) Suits me cuz I got legs longer than a giraffe's neck.
Ahem. If you're going to buy that engine why not get the original, and best, incarnation. The TL1000S. :twisted:


Cuz I'd rather not wrap myself around a lampost. ;) I'm sure you know the story about the handling...

I'd rather arrive late in this world than early for the next :)
:lol: I've had mine for nearly 8 years and it hasn't killed me ye...


Nothing wrong with the handling that a decent new rear damper doesn't sort out. Bit flighty around the headstock mind :D :D
We don't need fuel gauges on TL's - as soon as the trip meter reads 90 miles, you know the light will be coming on soon!

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MrsMiggins wrote:
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MrsMiggins wrote:
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BTW. My bike? KLV1000 (Same as VSTROM) Suits me cuz I got legs longer than a giraffe's neck.
Ahem. If you're going to buy that engine why not get the original, and best, incarnation. The TL1000S. :twisted:


Cuz I'd rather not wrap myself around a lampost. ;) I'm sure you know the story about the handling...

I'd rather arrive late in this world than early for the next :)
:lol: I've had mine for nearly 8 years and it hasn't killed me ye...


Nothing wrong with the handling that a decent new rear damper doesn't sort out. Bit flighty around the headstock mind :D :D
We don't need fuel gauges on TL's - as soon as the trip meter reads 90 miles, you know the light will be coming on soon!


That's what I meant. I know my onions - just Googled 'TL1000 handling' :rotfl:

2:33 a.m? You just come back after a night out on the razzle? Mind the lipstick on your collar :wink:

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