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Well, after a long hard week at work (in Birmingham), I was driving back towards Leamington Spa taking a road that I have used for years - a nice dual carrigeway with a speed limit of..........50mph...........With my mind on the weekend ahead and driving in an auto pilot like state I completely forgot about my speed - cruising at a speedy 60mph (that's the speedo reading, the Sat Nav records about 56/57mph). Went straight through a Trulevo speed camera. Thing is, I know it's there, just forgot to check the speedo before hand... I realised my error as soon as I had crossed over the 3 white lines in the road.

My question is, what tolerance do you think these things are set to? Also, what are the odds of there being film in it?

This has really ruined my weekend now!!!!

Welcome to the world of remote enforcement.

If you had been driving dangerously you would have course continued to drive dangerously all the way back to Leamington Spa!!

If they are using ACPO (posted limit + 10% + 2mph) you would be due a ticket.
You'll have to sit tight and wait I'm afraid.
I dont suppose you want to risk hundreds of pounds fighting the ridiculous calibration certificates produced for these cameras?

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Thanks for the prompt reply. If I get a NIP I'll just cough up - I know that I was speeding, will just be mad with myself for getting caught! There was no other traffic, the conditions were clear and dry - I was driving safely. Although, you could argue that I was in auto pilot mode. I read somewhere that only 1 in 8 truvelo cameras actually had film in at any one time and that the police rotate new film to different group of cameras. Is there any truth in this????

Also, you say 10%+2, that would be 57mph. My speedo read 60mph, but according to my sat nav, the speed was 56/57. If the former, would I be OK then?

Thanks in advance.

I believe they either store the pictures in media cards like cameras, or "dial home".


Yes/No, sorry mate. I imagine they're the most accurate cameras on the market. Needless to say they're not so accurate and can probably snap anywhere between 56 and 58mph, so you'll have to wait. They have 14 days to get a ticket sent out to you, if you did get caught.

Is that 14 working days or 14 calendar days??

So my nagging got you here at last (I know this guy lads )

Glad to have you along. Wish it was under different circumstances Sorry to hear about it.

I have done the same myself when coming back from a bad/sad experience. On auto pilot, having just left a patient and thinkinig about it their plight and wonderd if that flash was the sun reflecting off something or the real thing. It's rediculous.

I'll keep my fingers crossed. Catch ya later bud...

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

Thanks Tony.

Just a thought - it's my birthday on the 29th (about the time the NIP should be sent), maybe they'll let me off?

Ah! Just noticed it should be posted here viewforum.php?f=31

You wern't to know ict_guy , being a newbie, and I haven't had cause to use it (yet) so forgot that's the place for these things. Perhaps a moderator may want to move it.

I hope you'll stick around. Always good to have another IT/PC savvy guy here

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

AFAIK, it is 14 days from the date of alleged offence...so add a couple of days to that for posting, etc.....if you don't get anything by the time 20 days is up then it's safe to assume you are in the clear.

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Well, it's now 14 days and no NIP. I take it, if it doesn't arrive by Tuesday, I'm in the clear??

Quite possibly Assuming you are the RK and not in a leased/ hired car...




Sadly - I think this is the very type who all too often falls foul to the automated cam. Not dangerous - more the "unfelt "creep up" which we know happens and perhaps why the Mad Cats became so anti-scam when they noted this occurring amongst folk they work with.

If you'd done this around here - I think sheer observation of the driving style would have leaned more towards a more discretionary dealing. We do tend to try to educate more and punish if no other alternative - but even if enforcing the law - we still think a person may benefit from advice as to how to avoid such "trauma" in future

I do not know if this area has an active Speed Aware course in place already. At this margin - you would qualify in some areas but not all as they currently stand. (Assuming worst outcome here).



They are supposed to be being rolled out across all 43 forces - and yep - it seems, from the blurbs, we can offer this remedy in addition to already existing DIS. (We do have cams.. only ours are mobile in all the cars in the fleet ). I think they plan to harmonise so that all pay the same and receive the same input too.


From your post - I think an example as to how automation can fall down as folk will settle to what they feel a comfy cruise and forget about a scam. It's another example though as to the real failings as folk will be speeding above the lolly - safely .. know the scam is there .. or see the scam and check the speedo

In all honesty - we all do. I do if in a scam infest zone and I CAN FEEL and JUDGE as speed pretty darned accurately. It sounds like I am boasting. But .. errr.. I've had a long career to date. Had the full benefit of a Hendon course in its dizzy standard setting hey day.. and I was taught by a very strict but fair instructor at the time who told me to "forget the track day psyche" and really LEARN to drive properly , He was a bt of a "tartar" as I fondly recall (shudder )

But all the same - I think you see a camera and you will check your speed automatically. I think this explains why so many still brake even if driving at a very legal and compliant speed too I honestly do not know if this phenomenum is basic distrust of a machine versus a human being

I do not doubt the driving was safe and I do think you are still a COAST driver, from the sheer worry and "self-reproach" wafting across in your post.

However, might I suggest buying a Road Angel or setting the cruise control in scam zone? The bleeps do bring back to reality check and assist in training to "feel speed" more acutely. Let's just say that if you set a cruiser to 30 mph and just drive for say 5 miles on a 5 mile 30 mph stretch or a track lap even and get used to it.. you then are more on the ball with regard to a 40 mph as it "feels faster"


The Swiss family and myself do use track days to practise driving at very slow speeds as well as blowing out some cobwebs Track days are not just about "hooning it up". Some do use them to develop skills here

Ultimate boys' own birthday presie ict=man.

For your cash - you get a lesson in rally driving .. and some time to experiment and develop expertise in various fast and slow cars there

Or another present to yourself - seek out an IAM Observation Meet and hone and tone them "feely skills"

By the way and hope I've soothed and helped a bit.

PS - if you are unlucky.. the good news is that insurers now accept 3 points as "normal" and many do not penalise now,.:roll;


My stance? I reckon I should have a better discount for never getting any points since passing test at age 17.

I have trigged speed traps in course of duty of course though Sometimes deliberately when we've been testing and sometimes when on a shout in the past

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Thanks for your post 'In gear'. It makes good sense!!

Problem with me getting 3 points is not with the car, it's with the Yamaha R1 I ride - I'll be stung by the insurers on that - an extra £80 a year

I have only held my bike license for 1 year. Does anyone know what would happen if I got 6 points in the first 2 years of having a motorbike entitlement on my driving license, a driving license that I have had for some 20 years??

No such thing as 'auto pilot' on the bike. 'Auto pilot' = dead. The car, on the other hand, gives me some security and allows my mind to deviate onto other things - a false sense of security, that is.