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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 19:18 
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Driver in court for speeding to maternity ward
By Tom Peterkin
Last Updated: 1:03PM BST 29/04/2008

A father was taken to court after being caught speeding at 37mph while his wife was in labour in the passenger seat.

Martin Walton, 36, appeared in court after being detected by a speed camera in a 30mph zone as he drove his wife Wendy to hospital on an empty carriageway at 5am on Aug 22 last year.

Yesterday, after being cleared in court of any wrongdoing, Mr Walton branded the episode a "fantastic waste of time and money".

The couple's daughter, Katie, was born shortly after they arrived at Poole Hospital Maternity Unit in Dorset.

Mr Walton knew that he had been flashed and went to court hoping to explain the situation. He was
incensed when the clerk of the court told him that the case could not be dropped.

Having been told that there was no option other than to take the penalty points and a fine, Mr Walton insisted on taking the case further to explain his predicament.

In court, it was decided that there were special circumstances and Mr Walton received an absolute discharge, which means no road traffic offence will be recorded against him nor will any penalty points.

Mr Walton, who incurred hundreds of pounds in legal costs as a result of the case, was exonerated within a few minutes at Bournemouth magistrates' court yesterday.

The IT programme manager, from Ringwood, Hants, said: "Someone who has drunk 25 pints and sticks at 29mph won't get caught but someone in my circumstances is dragged through the courts.

"My wife had to come and give evidence, I spent over £300 on a solicitor and had two days off work.

"There ought to be room for discretion. The courts had the details from the beginning, but they seemed not to have read the evidence.

"At the first hearing another court tried to browbeat me into pleading guilty and take the points and a fine. But I wanted to explain what had happened because there was little else I could do as my wife had felt the baby's head."

In his evidence, Mr Walton said there did not appear to be an emergency at first, but hospital staff had told his wife to get there as soon as possible.

He said: "On the way she explained that her pains were getting worse and the contractions were on top of each other. She felt she could feel the head coming out and she was in an advanced state of labour.

"I was quite worried and did not want her to give birth in the car. I wanted her to get to hospital as quickly and as safely as possible.

"My wife was worried and a bit scared, she felt she was giving birth in the seat and she wasn't calm."

Mrs Walton, 37, said: "I was screaming with pain and trying to breathe through the pain. I was just scared that I was going to give birth in the car."

A Crown Prosecution Service spokesman said last night: "Mr Walton pleaded guilty to speeding. The first time he gave his reasoning for driving at excessive speed was at court. He failed to provide any of the information that he raised in court at the time he was caught speeding and the Crown Prosecution Service received no communication from Mr Walton in the days before his court hearing.

"If Mr Walton had provided us with the relevant information, the case could have been reviewed again and a decision could have been made as to whether it was in the public interest to proceed."

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 22:20 
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This appears all too common:
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The courts had the details from the beginning, but they seemed not to have read the evidence

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The first time he gave his reasoning for driving at excessive speed was at court. He failed to provide any of the information that he raised in court at the time he was caught speeding and the Crown Prosecution Service received no communication from Mr Walton in the days before his court hearing.

What do I believe? The assumed guilt of anyone caught by a camera is now so ingrained that the CPS really did not read the evidence and thus genuinrely believe that the first they heard of it was in court.

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All I can say is that it's a good job the papers got hold of it before the CPS did, otherwise they'd no doubt have taken it to appeal to get a re-trial. Can't have Magistrates letting speeders off can we?

My understanding is that he could legitimately have pleaded Not Guilty in the first place, as the law specifically excludes vehicles being used for ambulance purposes from having to comply with the speed limit.

Anyway, all's well that ends well (assuming he got his costs back)

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I think I read that the new road safety act removes the right to exceed a speed limit when using a private vehicle as an ambulance. the old act said any vehicle could be used as an ambulance in an emergency.. the new act restricts it. good to see the courts are ignoring it though.


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malcolmw wrote:
This appears all too common:
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The courts had the details from the beginning, but they seemed not to have read the evidence

but is contradicted by:
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The first time he gave his reasoning for driving at excessive speed was at court. He failed to provide any of the information that he raised in court at the time he was caught speeding and the Crown Prosecution Service received no communication from Mr Walton in the days before his court hearing.

What do I believe? The assumed guilt of anyone caught by a camera is now so ingrained that the CPS really did not read the evidence and thus genuinrely believe that the first they heard of it was in court.


If you look at it carefully there is no contradiction

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The first time he gave his reasoning for driving at excessive speed was at court.


Which is true, he raised this the first time he was in court according to the article.

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He failed to provide any of the information that he raised in court at the time he was caught speeding


I doubt the speed camera would have paid an awful lot of attention if he had, a police officer on the other hand...

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I can't see that if you believe in the "speeding is akin to murder" hype that there can be ANY extenuating circumstances for the absolute offence of exceeding the limit and this guy was guilty of a terrible crime. He could easily have killed several small children on his way to get his own born in hospital.

Of course, back in the real world, everyone knows (including the judge) that speeding isn't very dangerous at all and that it's all a pretence to convince the gullible that "something is being done" by installing cameras. Unfortunately, the "something" is ineffective and probably counterproductive.

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Hi,

I know this is long forgotten but only just seen the posts.

The really annoying thing about all this is the CPS comments when the press picked it up. I went to the magistrates courts at Bournemouth and specifically asked to talk to someone about the case in terms of public interest. The admin window on the second floor told me that there was no-one that I could see and the only way to present such information was to attend court. This I did at the first hearing, all the information was presented and was bullied to accept 3 points. When I say bullied I mean that I was repeatedly told that "Whilst it was my decision whether to plead with mitigating circumstances or not, having heard them in the court they would not accepted by a magistrate". I would not just say, oh OK then give me points and a fine. Immediately the hearing ended as the staff in the court were not qualified to hear mitigating circumstances cases.

I then secured the services of an excellent solicitor advocate who presented the second hearing with exactly the same information as the first and the outcome was different. The CPS statement is completely untrue, it sounds like a stock response that they give. Like everything else to do with the case I guess they are not concerned about accuracy and did not want to put any effort in.

I did not get any costs back but did eventually get a hearing where the magistrates listened.

Katie’s Dad – Mr Walton


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Glad you got (sort of!) justice in the end! A great pity that the system has sunk to this level though. These people really are beneath contempt!


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Hi,

I know this is long forgotten but only just seen the posts.

The really annoying thing about all this is the CPS comments when the press picked it up. I went to the magistrates courts at Bournemouth and specifically asked to talk to someone about the case in terms of public interest. The admin window on the second floor told me that there was no-one that I could see and the only way to present such information was to attend court. This I did at the first hearing, all the information was presented and was bullied to accept 3 points. When I say bullied I mean that I was repeatedly told that "Whilst it was my decision whether to plead with mitigating circumstances or not, having heard them in the court they would not accepted by a magistrate". I would not just say, oh OK then give me points and a fine. Immediately the hearing ended as the staff in the court were not qualified to hear mitigating circumstances cases.

I then secured the services of an excellent solicitor advocate who presented the second hearing with exactly the same information as the first and the outcome was different. The CPS statement is completely untrue, it sounds like a stock response that they give. Like everything else to do with the case I guess they are not concerned about accuracy and did not want to put any effort in.

I did not get any costs back but did eventually get a hearing where the magistrates listened.

Katie’s Dad – Mr Walton



Hi there and :welcome:


I am also a proud Papa and deeply in love with my wife.. so I understand exactly how you felt.

Now my wife had a serious nasty some years back. All on here know about it.. I nearly lost her. It was not her fault. Man became ill at the wheel.. accelerated hard.. He hit her car .. along with others in the "general fall out" :roll:

But Wildy was very seriously injured .. multiple fractures and internal bleeding of vital organs. We thought she'd never concieve again and we were a bit .. um .. "careless" - but this resulted in a fine robust son and a really beautiful daughter after the crash. But despite the robust health of these children.. Wildy was a "high risk pregnancy" . I asked where I stood as regards whisking her to hopsital on the PH site. The BiBs on board .. or rather ONE of them insisted that I would be breaking the law if I speeded her to hospital -even on my green light flag. :roll: Advised to call and wait for ambulance ..but we live in the middle of rural outback here :roll: Wildy has short labours and we had problems in the afterbirth with Lukas whom I ended up delivering and then rushing both to hospital myself.. I was taking no such chances with the last one.

I called the ambulance and the police. Informed I was setting off and may not have much option but to get her there quickly, Police met me about two miles from the hospital and escorted :bow: to Cumbria in longest moments. I was on a green light all the way .. and fortunately out of local scam van hours anyway :wink:

But yes. I agree - speed scams do not take any account of such incidents - and real cops DO.

We need these cops to provide that necessary assistance as and when needed. Speed cams do not seem to be "freeing cops to perform such necessities of life" :roll:

Pregnant ladies do not want to pee in a policeman's helmet. :roll: (per some statute :roll:) They want an escort to hospital when about to give birth.. and bringing a new life into the world is perhaps the most worthwhile - if lives and "saving lives" arguments are to hold water. :popcorn:

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Can't resist the pun ( :oops1: ) - so both the CPS and the SCP view was "STAND AND DELIVER " :lol:

kATIES DAD - CONGRATS and :welcome:

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