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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/7378695.stm

Err... if it was so dangerous, and children might have been exposed to his behaviour, one has to ask WHY DID THEY NOT STOP THE CAR RIGHT AWAY?
Clearly this behaviour was triggered BY the presence of a speed camera, so what do they intend to do to stop it?

Your task should you choose to accept it, is to track down Northumberlands KSI stats for the past 3 years. Fatal and Serious Injury splits would be ideal.
They seem rather shy about showing them on their website!!

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Time to take responsibility for our actions.. and don't be afraid of speaking out!

The car wasn't speeding, why was it photographed?

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Regulation without education merely creates more criminals.

Yes, do we assume that the cameras run continuously and someone looks at the video feed all the time "in case" some random event occurs?

Even the police say that CCTV is ineffective now.

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Malcolm W.
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Good on whoever it was. Just about sums up what people are starting to believe this whole camera fiasco is all about. They only say it wasn't safe because it goes against their masterminding control freaking plans.

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Useless laws weaken necessary laws.

Some typical emotive writing bullshit "why wont you think of the children?!?!". Always trying to use Children, or elderly or disabled in an attempt to make something sound really reasonable. Clearly, the guy wasnt being best sensible, but it is doing no more harm to kids than to adults.

Dixie,

Yep, I think that's the bottom line on this one.

C.

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More rules and regulations please! (Not)

What I like is the fact that police are to send the driver a letter and ask him to identify his passenger.

As far as I know he/she is under no obligation to name the perpetrator of a non-motoring offence

Interesting conflation suggesting indecent exposure, paedophilia etc. However, I am interested in "disrespectful". Is it a crime to be disrespectful to an inanimate object? This guy sounds like a headmaster demanding respect (with the threat of the cane) instead of earning it.

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Malcolm W.
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What it’s about is they don’t want today’s children seeing people going against the establishment’s agenda. I don’t know where this camera is situated but I expect it wouldn’t be in a built up area with children present. I bet if there were any children about they’d have laughed their socks off. As for respect, they’re going the right way about losing it anyway it will only get worse.

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Useless laws weaken necessary laws.

Maybe some of the camera vans are manned by children!

You mean grown up ones?

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Useless laws weaken necessary laws.

Any news on this line then??

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Time to take responsibility for our actions.. and don't be afraid of speaking out!

What's the point, we know they'll only be fudged anyway, and even if KSI's have gone up, all they'll say is they need more cameras to stop all these murdering speeding drivers. I bet deep down they want KSI's to rise because it gives them an excuse to keep their cash flowing, they've got to look after their shareholders haven't they?

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Useless laws weaken necessary laws.

If this were the case, then they would be being used outwith their mandate, which requires that the operator form prior opinion of excessive speed, before operating the equipment in the direction of the potential offender. If the operator had formed such prior opinion, and was shown to be incorrect, yet again, it begs the question as to what training, in forming an opinion of speed, these operators receive, and is it objectively assessed, as they all too often seem to be extremely poor at it!

If it was (as we probably all consider most likely) the case that the scam was being trained on every passing vehicle, in the hope of catching any 0.001% over the threshold without the inconvenience of the legal requirement to form prior opinion, surely this has ramifications for the legality of it's use, and potentially some privacy issues too, inasmuch as drivers, with no suggestion of law-breaking, are being recorded without their consent.

Finally, are these devices Home Office Type Approved for use in recording non-speeding/non-motoring offences?

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Regulation without education merely creates more criminals.

How much time effort and money will they throw at this to solve the 'crime'.

Anyway, who says he didn't do it because of a medical condition or something. Maybe a wasp flew down his pants We shouldn't jump to conclusions

Edit to add. I've got this vision of a line up of arses. "That's the one officer!"

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You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

I suspect it would be a camera van, and the video camera would be on all the time. It'd be the trigger on the laser speed meter which they should only use after prior opinion of excess speed.

I wonder how many children would actually be offended by that? They'd just laugh! It's a bum!

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Andrew.

Oh, whatever it takes. After all "disrespecting" a talivan is a very serious crime. Just like murder, rape, arson ...

On this subject, I see from the paper today that criminal damage is now not to be counted as a crime as "nobody knows how it occurred". Well apart from the unlikely acts of God, things are damaged by someone.

So, make up crimes by reducing speed limits, nick motorists as they have handy identification signs on them but ignore real criminals as its hard to catch them.

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Malcolm W.
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Does that mean I can paint a £ sign on scameras now

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

Captain Gatso will be pleased.

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Malcolm W.
The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not represent the views of Safespeed.

Ahh. You need to find them first, to ascertain whether or not they have been fudged!!

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Time to take responsibility for our actions.. and don't be afraid of speaking out!