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Yep! I guess that our kids have finally "blown 'em".......

Around 4:00pm this afternoon I'd left the A580 East Lancs Rd at Lowton and taken the A572 "Newton Rd" towards Newton-le-Willows". Now just after the lights at the junction(for the M6) with Kenyon Lane and on the opposing carriageway, 2 boys were sat, cross legged in the middle of the road!......

What's that all about........some new kind of: "Hit me if you dare an' I'll sue you tactic" or what?.........

P.S. If you are local Police.....Please be there tomorrow and Do something about this.

If someone gets killed there.....I've no doubt that it will be a "motorists" fault and the mothers will all form an action group against speeding cars.....

"My son was killed by egregious stupidity. Although no one will fail to privately realize that I am no less than proximately responsible, enough people will rally behind me when I begin keening for an overly simplistic, emotionally driven, and patently illogical solution, that reason shall once again be drowned out by the braying sheeple, no one will learn anything useful, and we will remain - by choice - stupid enough to feel better about having actually fixed nothing."

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The Rules for ALL ROAD USERS:
1) No one gets hurt
2) Nothing gets hit, except to protect others; see Rule#1
3) The Laws of Physics are invincible and immutable - so-called 'laws' of men are not
4) You are always immediately and ultimately responsible for your safety first, then proximately responsible for everyone's
Do not let other road users' mistakes become yours, nor yours become others
5) The rest, including laws of the land, is thoughtful observation, prescience, etiquette, decorum, and cooperation

That's an interesting quote Rush. Who or where is it from?

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You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

Damned fine post Rush!

Perhaps practicing for thier attempt at the Darwin Awards ???

The Rush great quote

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Gordon Brown saying I got the country into it's current economic mess so I'll get us out of it is the same as Bomber Harris nipping over to Dresden and offering to repair a few windows.

Chaos, panic and disorder - my work here is done.

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Penny just dropped (Duh) The quotation marks threw me.

It's you Rush!

Should have guessed. Wicked post

Is anyone else wondering, as one of the most articulate and very obviously educated posters, why he's not a journalist or something (I mean that honestly and respectfully Rush)

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

Possibly it's the common council dweller disease - you know the one - "all problems are down to lack of action by my council - I'm a council tenant and have rights"


On one estate near me (well know for being occupied by tenants who could consider a silverback a genius) one mother had a narrow escape with her TWO /threeYEAR old ,when it got out and ended up in the main road through the estate .Instead of her being done for anything possible by social services(like immediate sterialisation ,being incapable of mothering a child) - the immediate scream was for speed bumps on this road .

What next - if I park somewhere on this estate - do I have to check underneath (beforedriving off) for babes in nappies

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

Some of the lads at school try that crap with me. (Not sitting just walking in front of the car, and stopping).
They have yet to call my bluff most of the time I leave well after they have all gone.
But I imagne it is different story on public roads.

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Had it in ours (Nuneaton) - strange how they move when told that last chicken made good stew ,when retrieved from real axle .

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

...apart from the split infinitive.


It worries me that one day one of us (and I include myself) could hit someone arsing about in the road like this, and then face 14 years jail for causing death by dangerous driving. Of cause, as Rush says, the facts will go out of the window in favour of the first principle of 21st century justice in Britain, viz. "It's always the motorist's fault".

We already have one instance. The driver WAS speeding .. but cleared of causing death by dangerous because the 15 year old girl had drunk 2 bottles of vodka when she staggered out into the road at 11.30 pm.



He parents campaigned for....

a speed camera.

Local prats would not buy one. The local council funded it.

The prats did collect any fines.. but an FOI show this cam actually ping very few ....

(Mad Doc posted up the full story as "Six One/Half Dozen of the Other" with links to press coverage at the time. )

Then there have been the full -blown chicken children who died on the motorway too

We really do need to get back to the idea that playing on roads ist dangerous und that no road ist a playground.

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Me?
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Wild - I missed that thread. Do you have a link to it?

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Useless laws weaken necessary laws.

From the bottom of my heart, thank you.

I have never thought of that, but I will now.

What I haven't yet figured out is the underlying why most 'sheeple' - the ones who stand to lose money, freedom, and safety - begin bleating for such measures so loudly.

What do they feel they are gaining?
I simply generated the above "quote" by setting my internal word generator to mimic certain patterns.
I did not use 'method acting'. If I could, or had, I'd actually understand how - and why - they think. If any of us achieved that, without being enveloped by such processes and motives, we could more effectively get the sheep to understand how and why they are being sheared.
That would be followed shortly by changes in how and why the system operates, since the system is presently infected with processes and motives which only benefit a minority.

What makes these sheeple beg to be sheared? If we don't convince them to stop laying down and taking it, ...

If one fails to avoid the area surrounding a high school during afternoon peak traffic, one is likely to find kids 'arsing about'.
They cross the street against the light - on the red, in between - trying to usurp driver's right of way. (More points are earned by doing it alone, intrduction to the 'sport' is done in groups of four or more.)

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The Rules for ALL ROAD USERS:
1) No one gets hurt
2) Nothing gets hit, except to protect others; see Rule#1
3) The Laws of Physics are invincible and immutable - so-called 'laws' of men are not
4) You are always immediately and ultimately responsible for your safety first, then proximately responsible for everyone's
Do not let other road users' mistakes become yours, nor yours become others
5) The rest, including laws of the land, is thoughtful observation, prescience, etiquette, decorum, and cooperation

So these swaggering idiots are worldwide then. I thought you were talking about the UK until I saw "high school". I assume these are the same retards who take part in "tombstoning" in hot weather. Just get paralysed from the neck down for the sake of looking hard/cool. Still, don't let me stop Darwin's theory taking its course.

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not represent the views of Safespeed.

.................................................er, right. Well! I didn't understand any of that but speaking as the origionator of the post..........I think that I really must be on a planet of my own if I don't expect people to be so stupid!.......

P.S. "vicinity of a school"? there ain't a school within.............................................................................MIles! (beats head on desk).

Our school still preaches the 'speed kills' and 'man-made climate change' horseshit. I have presented document after document to my department to try to get them to place the same openness on these subjects as they do in astronomical theory and subatomic/quantum physics. I have been, basically, told to STFU and live with it.
Teachers are there to teach but, now also, to preach. The Curriculum categorically states that "Students will have a clear appreciation of the effects of speed in serious road accidents / the destructive effect of man-made CO2 on the environment." Failure of them to come up with the 'right' answer at GCSE, AS or A2 will lose marks and drop stats for the school - 'points mean prizes', so this Nu Labia Junta crap has to be passed on so that we can send a new generation of unquestioning taxpayers out into the world, and receive our Blood Money for doing so. Stalin's chest would have swelled at such a master-stroke.
I will have none of it and have made my stance well known; if a child asks me when we will die of global warming or if it is OK to step out into the road near a speed camera without looking (both of which I have been asked..!), I will tell the truth in my studied opinion.

Two boys sitting in the road for no apparent reason does not surprise me in the least. Their State-run mental conditioning leads me to rears of anger and frustration at the loss of all reason in the country of my birth.

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Licat volare si super tergum aquila volat...

What hope do we have of teaching kids roadsense what half the adult population have none?

I'm about to drive to work, and I'll lay good odds at several points people will try to casually stroll across in front of me, with no urgency reflecting they're in moving traffic and no attempt to make eye contact, ascertain my intentions, or pick a suitable timeframe to cross. They seem to simply expect right of way, and all of this often mere yards from safe crossing points, places where most drivers focus their attention on pedestrian movements, built at great expense to the motorist.

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Now back in the old days -remember a scene at school (just before our village had become big enough to warrant a Sergeant ) -the local Officer and our Headmaster laying down the law about the favourite game at the time -"Playing chicken" - The warning was very clear and loud and spelt out in no uncertain fashion.

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on