Lum wrote:
Herbie J wrote:
all rules and regs should apply to the dumbest and most incompetent.
So you'd support a plan to roll out 20 limits in all urban areas and lowering the
speed limit to 40 (SC) and 50 (DC/MW) then?
While we're at it, lets ban people from installing software on their own PCs have to take it to a shop and pay them £20 to install the game they just bought
And we can ban people from wiring plugs or changing fuses on their appliances too, in case they get it wrong, again we can pay a shop to do that.
What about cooking, we'd have to ban that too. Everyone can eat microwave ready meals with RFID tags to tell the microwave how long to cook it for, that way nobody will ever get food poisoning from incorrect food preparation.
No, the dumbest and most incompetent need to be identified and either educated or removed from the roads. Mobile phone use should be treated the way driving whilst tired currently is, an aggravating factor in any other charge, such as due care and attention. Of course that would require that we actually start catching people for due care and attention again. Not just after they've had a crash, but when they drive past an unmarked car weaving all over the place with a phone clamped to their ear.
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I havent got a clue where you are getting this rubbish from but to humour you, I never mentioned speed limits, in fact if I were to it would be to make speed on open roads less of an issue than many would think, also speed within built up areas would be a serious issue to me because thats where the majority of fatalities occur not on open roads.
Installing software...lol. yeah thats gonna stop all the fatalities and serious injuries caused by such a crazy undertaking isnt it! doh!
Its called 'Electrician' not 'Shop' and again you in your wisdom have hit the nail on the head, thats gonna save counless life as only yesterday 3 Brazilians died wiring their TV plug up.It was even brought to George Bush's attention when he said 'My god, thats sad, just how many is a Brazilian?'
Cooking??? Thats a toughy so I'll leave that to the wife.
As your final point which I must say is the only bit appearing sensible
Like so many your sentiments are admirable but you overlook facts and logistics.Do you know how many people we are talking about, are you aware how many poor drivers are out there? Do you know how many police are on duty at any one time? Do you understand how much time/effort would be required to deal with every case of the poorest driving standards when not related to speeding or crashes? Do you know how many people are given very very basic training followed by an inadequate test that does not include high speed driving/braking and does not include motorway driving?( a test that hasnt changed in decades significantly yet the performance and quantity of vehs has) Do you believe that everyone who passes a driving test is actually good enough to be on Britains roads?
I have many years past experience teaching most licence groups and people from all walks of life. You will not stop people scraping through tests and being a complete idiot behind the wheel it can be an Oxford don or Road sweeper. You can only reduce some of the crap on our roads by introducing tougher policing/penalty for clearly identified causes, like mob phone use.You can use the passive softly softly stuff alongside that but the reality is people are being killed, I for one would hapily sacrifice mob phone use for me and everyone if it saved one life,I for one have not used MP on the move for years yet Ive had more training and mileage experience than most . People are addicted to things they feel they need yet dont, like mob phones. Mob phone use has been factually identified as a cause of many crunches ( some horrific ) and everyone using it at the time wasnt thinking that they were doing any harm or that their driving was affected. This should not be worthy of debate but simply accepted. STOP USING MP WHEN DRIVING it wont kill you!