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http://www.roadpeace.org/

Roadpeace is a charity. They should not be sponsoring petitions as charities are banned from political activities. As the Tories have said they are against the blanket reduction then this could be seen as political bias.

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Malcolm W.
The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not represent the views of Safespeed.

This could be very interesting, an informal referendum almost.

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Driving fast is for a particular time and place, I can do it I just only do it occasionally because I am a gentleman.
- James May

Final response to my politician-bothering orgy:

Nice to see that the Road peace petition has such an overwhealming backing and support of.....TWO...so thats the organiser and his partner then.

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My views do not represent Safespeed but those of a driver who has driven for 39 yrs, in all conditions, at all times of the day & night on every type of road and covered well over a million miles, so knows a bit about what makes for safety on the road,what is really dangerous and needs to be observed when driving and quite frankly, the speedo is way down on my list of things to observe to negotiate Britain's roads safely, but I don't expect some fool who sits behind a desk all day to appreciate that.

Another zero signatures since I last checked then!

That roadpeace petition is going well

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I like the way if you view the "Transport & Infrastructure" petitions by size it's the last of the ones with two votes. Like an extra kick in the teeth really.

If there's only two people that think like that, they must drive a hell of a lot, as I seem to get stuck behind them frequently. Actually that raises a serious and sad point: that it only takes a small minority to drive round at 50 and everyone else is forced to.

You only have to be on a motorway to see this. It only takes one car in the outside lane doing 50-60mph to cause one hell of a tail back. What happens then is drivers start undertaking and get blasted for doing so.

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Useless laws weaken necessary laws.

Exactly, and the most frequent cause for someone doing 60mph in the outside lane? Someone doing 55mph in the middle lane who neglects to pull into space in the inside lane.

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Regulation without education merely creates more criminals.

Petition now at 17,534.

Seventh largest on the site, and two are due to end shortly.



The Roadpeace one is still on two

Does Roadpeace only have two members?

oh roadpeace is upto 3

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Oct 11 Birmingham Half Marathon. I am running for the British Heart Foundation.
http://www.justgiving.com/Rob-Taylor

In the Mail a few days ago, their resident doctor raised the reduction of the national limit and supported it on the basis of "slower equals less accidents". Putting aside whether this is correct or not, he then went on to say that the money which will be spent on this would be better directed to other medical areas which would save more lives.

I know it suits his agenda but it's an interesting take on the most cost effective way of saving suffering.

The Law of Unintended Consequences will mean that, if the limit is reduced to 50mph and accidents do indeed reduce, then the number of organ transplant donors will reduce. Is this good or bad, Mr Doctor?

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Malcolm W.
The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not represent the views of Safespeed.

4, but I don't think one is genuinely supportive...

Meanwhile, the real one is up to 22,713 and on the front page of the petitions site as a result.

Past 30,000 now and 2nd only to one telling Gordo to resign.

And the petition supporting has jumped to 5.

Fifth Gear, channel 5, tonight, looks at whether the drop in NSL to 50MPH will save lives or not.

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My views do not represent Safespeed but those of a driver who has driven for 39 yrs, in all conditions, at all times of the day & night on every type of road and covered well over a million miles, so knows a bit about what makes for safety on the road,what is really dangerous and needs to be observed when driving and quite frankly, the speedo is way down on my list of things to observe to negotiate Britain's roads safely, but I don't expect some fool who sits behind a desk all day to appreciate that.

http://www.shropshirestar.com/2009/07/1 ... imit-cuts/

Highways chiefs call for speed limit cuts

Shirehall highway bosses are calling for the national speed limit to be cut to 50 mph on some country roads to help reduce the number of people killed or seriously injured in accidents.

A report to the Shropshire Council cabinet next week welcomes a Department of Transport consultation paper which sets out proposals aimed at making Britain’s roads the safest in the world.

Figures reveal that Shropshire is ahead of national targets for reducing casualties but the report says more needs to be done to improve road safety.

The call for the speed limit reduction is one of the proposed responses from council officers to the paper and for which they are seeking approval from cabinet on Wednesday.

The report says that good progress has been made in reducing road casualties over the last decade.

In 2007 the number of people killed or seriously injured on British roads had dropped by 36 per cent from the 1994 to 1998 average . A 40 per cent target is expect-ed to achieved by 2010.

Last year, Shropshire’s KSIs dropped to an all-time low and was more than 60 per cent lower than the 1994 to 1998 average.

The report says that 60 per cent of all road deaths occur on rural routes. The Department of Transport plans to publish maps highlighting the roads with the poorest safety records, to encourage agencies to improve safety standards.

Local authorities will be encouraged to reduce speed limits on the more dangerous rural roads from the current 60mph. The 90 per cent chance of a driver dying in a 60mph head-on collision is reduced to 65 per cent at 50mph.

This, the report says, is welcomed and in line from Shropshire’s agreed policy on rural A and B roads.

“However, from a Shropshire perspective a more practical approach would be for the national speed limit on single carriageway roads to be reduced to 50mph with those roads suitable for a 60mph limit being signed by exception,” says the report.

"Meanwhile, plans to prevent the other 95% of accidents are being hidden in a filing cabinet as you read this."

So IF the government are telling us the truth(that will be a first) and rural roads are so dangerous then why are casualties in Shropshire so low?
virtually 90% of it's roads are rural , with a NSL on most (except for the past 12 months whenthey started butchering them)....If rural roads are so dangerous (and Shropshire used to be the largest inland county once) why are we not in a bloodbath????

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My views do not represent Safespeed but those of a driver who has driven for 39 yrs, in all conditions, at all times of the day & night on every type of road and covered well over a million miles, so knows a bit about what makes for safety on the road,what is really dangerous and needs to be observed when driving and quite frankly, the speedo is way down on my list of things to observe to negotiate Britain's roads safely, but I don't expect some fool who sits behind a desk all day to appreciate that.

And another thing, I have travelled most of this country and the average speed on Shropshires roads is far higher than a lot of other rural roads that I have travelled on in other counties and just as, or more challenging, than most.

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My views do not represent Safespeed but those of a driver who has driven for 39 yrs, in all conditions, at all times of the day & night on every type of road and covered well over a million miles, so knows a bit about what makes for safety on the road,what is really dangerous and needs to be observed when driving and quite frankly, the speedo is way down on my list of things to observe to negotiate Britain's roads safely, but I don't expect some fool who sits behind a desk all day to appreciate that.