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 Post subject: Re: Scrappage scheme??
PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 15:27 
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My Mum could benefit from this scheme. I'm pretty sure her car (Pug 206) is around the right age now. She's owned it from new and doesn't really care about cars enough to replace it with a high spec model. She asked me a few years back if I thought she should get rid due to the age. I asked her if it was unreliable or if the servicing costs were getting too high. She said no. I then asked if there was any particular new car (or features) she was after and she said no "I'm quite happy with this one.. guess I may as well keep it then". She'll get rid when it starts getting costly to run.

The car probably isn't worth much as a sale, so may as well scrap it and get a new 206, well I guess it'll be a 207 now.


That said, if the Tata Nano comes out in time, I may well trade in my crappy old Volvo (runabout) that I believe has a cracked headgasket. Free car! Failing that I wonder how much discount I can get on a little Kia GrotBox with a 7 year warranty.
It's just a shame that we weighed in my GFs old 200SX shell at the end of last year, would've been funny to turn up at the dealers with a shell on a flatbed with no doors, wings, bonnet, interior, axle, engine, dashboard, wiring loom etc. etc.

SORNed cars do qualify so I don't see why this would've been a problem.


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That said, if the Tata Nano comes out in time, I may well trade in my crappy old Volvo (runabout) that I believe has a cracked headgasket. Free car!

That would be rich - love to see the dealers face.

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It's just a shame that we weighed in my GFs old 200SX shell at the end of last year, would've been funny to turn up at the dealers with a shell on a flatbed with no doors, wings, bonnet, interior, axle, engine, dashboard, wiring loom etc. etc.


Could you get an MoT in that state? (More of the small print - must have an MoT to qualify)

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It appears that to qualify:

- you must be both the owner and registered keeper
- you must have been so for 12 months
- you must personally purchase a new vehicle to be registered in your name
- the vehicle must have a valid MOT

There are bound to be a lot more rules - it's a Government scheme.

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Could you get an MoT in that state? (More of the small print - must have an MoT to qualify)


I think it was MOT'd shortly before it was written off (October-ish), so it would still have an MOT now if we still had it.


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malcolmw wrote:
It appears that to qualify:

- you must be both the owner and registered keeper
- you must have been so for 12 months
- you must personally purchase a new vehicle to be registered in your name
- the vehicle must have a valid MOT

There are bound to be a lot more rules - it's a Government scheme.


Wonder what exactly a "new" vehicle means? There are a lot of pre-registered vehicles on the forecourts with only delivery mileage. Are they new?

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Prereg'd vehicles don't count according to the news article I read yesterday.


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Prereg'd vehicles don't count according to the news article I read yesterday.


The dealers will love that. A showroom full of unsaleable prereg'ds. Though it is likely to be a case of "Sorry doesn't qualify for scrappage but for you, my friend, I will give you a £2000 discount" This scheme would only be meaningful if there really was such a thing as an applied list price.

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Like I said!

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the vehicle must have a valid MOT


Oh The Irony!

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Well, well, well,

I had my 1998 Civic serviced and MOT'd last week and got change from £420. The car was worth about £700 last week to trade in. Everything works and it drives much the same as it did in 2002 when I bought it. Mr Darling is going to give me £1,000 for it if I PX it against a new car. But a new Civic is at least £14,000 so where is the rest of the money going to come from? Why would I sell a perfectly good, but old, car? What advantage am I going to see? It's not like they are encouraging me to drive it is it? I mean the increase in already high fuel duty is there to reduce pollution/reduce congestion/reduce CO2 emmisions/ pay off the banks and he's not likely to make motoring any cheaper.

They can go forth and multiply, I'll keep the old car and they can try and find another way to tax me into an early grave :x


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What is more , the government seems to have forgotton that FAR more people in the UK gain employment in the independent servicing and repair sector (Whose bread and butter comes from older vehicles out of manufacturers warenty) than are employed in the new vehicle manufacturing sector.

The scrappage scheme is a direct attack on the independent sector (And dont think for one moment that the big manufacturers diddnt intend it to be!) and in the long term will be bad for everybody!

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The scrappage scheme is a direct attack on the independent sector (And dont think for one moment that the big manufacturers diddnt intend it to be!) and in the long term will be bad for everybody!


You're quite right Dusty. I've a friend who runs his own garage and he told me a few years ago that our Governments seem hell bent on closing him down.

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But lots of garages already have discounts .. one even did a BOGOF deal at one point?

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I think the cars have to be "green" ones .. :bunker: as well. I do not think I would get a discount if I trade in an old heap for that lovely Jag I am dribbling my milk over :lol:

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I think the cars have to be "green" ones .. :bunker: as well. I do not think I would get a discount if I trade in an old heap for that lovely Jag I am dribbling my milk over :lol:


Pretty sure you can trade in anything with a valid MOT that you have had for a year and drive off in anything, but it must be new. No ex demo's :wink:


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Hey, ...My lovely old 2.0 L Ford Grandad is worth more than £2000 to me anyway!....One day I'll sell it for £2 Million :)


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Are there any restrictions on how long until you can sell on the car you've just bought? I can see a few people coming to an agreement when one buys it but the other becomes the RK, for a few weeks.

If someone were to offer me, say, a grand for my Volvo, I'd probably consider it, after stripping it for parts of course.


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Well, it's not going to be the poor in our society running old cars is it? After all, they can't afford a new car anyway! £2000 OR NOT!

i guess it's going to to be the "fleet buyers"........INDUSTRY! or the MEGA Rich.


Old "Joe Soap" ain't gonna' benefit a bean!

Pity, Cos, theyr'e the folks who are running the "old bangers" anyway!........

Nah! Ain't gonna' work is it?.......


History tells us that 75% of car sales in the UK are "FLEET BUYERS"!


So.........Who is it going to benefit again?


We poor sods will have to continue to run our old bangers and pay increased Road Tax for doing so whilst the rich are subsidised for buying their new 2009 Merc at a discount!..............

Nice one Darling!.........


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